[GNU/FSF Press] Press release: FSF announces release of gNewSense 1.0

[Robin Sonefors]

mån 2006-11-06 klockan 09:27 -0400 skrev Derek Broughton:
> It's not part of the _distribution_.  As for its use by developers, how do
> FSF plan to not take advantage of the fact that it _was_ used?  That's why
> I called it nonsense.  They can't use Ubuntu without indirectly using
> Launchpad, and _anybody_ can use Ubuntu without directly using Launchpad. 
> They've built a strawman argument that wasn't even necessary to support
> their (generally) reasonable project.

It is part of the distribution. Ubuntus packages are patched to contain
menu items for translating and for bug reporting which directs people to
launchpad.

Launchpad is integrated into Ubuntu. If GNewSence wouldn't revert/edit
those patches, they would be forced to use launchpad, because that's
where their users would be directed.

> I might go so far as to point out that if they refuse to use Launchpad for
> bug-tracking, they're going against the very spirit of their organization -
> taking without giving back to the community.

Don't even go there. Really, don't. Do Ubuntu's menu items lead people
to Gnome Bugzilla (for instance)? No. Do Debians? Yes!

Do Ubuntu's menu items lead people to upstream translators? No.

If you want to argue this part: do the Ubuntu translations go upstream?
Often: no. Do the Ubuntu translators in any way communicate whith the
upstream translators? Often: no.

And, mentioning Debian, what's all this noice I hear about Ubuntu's
debdiffs? Apparently, some Debian developers are (were?) very
dissatisfied about the way they are (were?) distributed.