Dapper Shutdown

[Tristan Wibberley]

Michael Shigorin wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 11:24:25AM +0100, Daniel Holbach wrote:

> Moderate language of bugreports helps but "politically correct"
> anything is utter nonsense as by defending one side's "rights"
> political correcters tend to throw out the baby with the water.

There are more tactful ways of expressing how strongly a response it 
invokes without disheartening somebody else, somebody who also cares 
about it being a great logout/shutdown experience.

> <rant>
> I'm rather tempted to call the designers of new TYPO3 4.0's 
> corporate identity and default skin morons who better deal
> with vegetables and not software and design, even if they might 
> be nice *people* otherwise; it's just that the "proffesional"
> result is *very* ugly compared to one-man previous one.
> But they worked in a dedicated team, yes.  They managed it.
> </rant>

There is a big difference between "ugly" and "not conformant to current 
fashion". I think the Ubuntu graphical style is a case of the latter. 
Just look at a picture of some young trendy person from the 70s - they 
look dumb, but at the time they probably looked very stylish people indeed.

>> Please point out suggestions, how to improve the situation on
>> the bug report and move the discussion from the mailing list.
>> We'd like to have information in one place, if possible.
> 
> Daniel, he's already done so.  After booting dapper-livecd I've
> looked at that particular place (in the login screen) and thought
> "well, then they're over-simplified here".

I personally think there are two problems with it. And over-simplicity 
of a simple task is certainly not one. I have given my opinion on 
ubuntu-desktop and will not repeat it again here - I suggest to simplify 
it even *further*.

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Tristan Wibberley