Microsoft bashing on Freedom Toaster's site

Benj. Mako Hill mako at
Thu Jun 29 17:54:24 BST 2006

<quote who="Derek Broughton" date="Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 02:55:44PM -0300">
> >> I can't imagine how a post at can be either expected
> >> or desired to conform to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.
> > 
> > Signatories of the Code of Conduct are expected to follow it at all
> > times in anything regarding Ubuntu:
> > 
> > "This Code of Conduct covers your behaviour as a member of the Ubuntu
> > Community, 
> I still don't get it.  Nothing at that link indicates a "member of
> the Ubuntu Community" to me (there's a note that it's "empowered by
> Shuttleworth Foundation", but that hardly makes a poster a member of
> the Ubuntu Community)

Whether or not the person has signed the Code of Conduct is not
particularly relevant here. I don't think this is a CoC issue nor do I
even think it's an Ubuntu issue.

I think that's it's clear that as a community with a goal and a
message (that of spreading freedom through free/open source software),
it's to our strategic advantage to not be nasty because that just
makes us easier to dismiss. That strategic point was the one to be
made and I think it's been made successfully. Let's learn and move
on. :)

> You know, I _was_ going to sign the Code once I figured out how to
> get my gpg key set up, but if people are going to start going to
> these lengths to invoke the Code, I think I'd rather not.  I believe
> in politeness, but not enforced by third parties snooping in my
> private correspondence.

The CoC is not a stick to be wielded -- although it sometimes gets
used that way. Don't let the misuse of an otherwise very good document
deter from the real point.

The CoC is a voluntary code and set of guidelines that, through
explicit agreement, sets the tone for the community. If you've read it
and think it's a good idea, go ahead and sign it.


Benjamin Mako Hill
mako at

Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so
far as society is free to use the results. --RMS

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