ethical ubuntu

[Randy Gloden]

I'm cool with spreading different ideas, but the wording sounds more 
like an attempt at putting all the "Legit Ubuntarians" into the 
strictest of FOSS molds.  Ubunarian Fundametalism, I like it . . . . 
Actually I don't. 

I want the technology to be as accessible and functional to the greatest 
population imaginable.  I want it freedom as in free play mp3, DVDs, 3D 
games, or whatever.  The strictest of these mindsets do not foster an 
environment that is helpful in growing the Ubuntu community.

There is more room under the Ubuntu umbrella that just for those of the 
legalistic FOSS mindset.  I'm here because Ubuntu works for me better 
than anything else, especially with the few proprietary/questionable 
drivers that I use.  As you push to conform Ubuntu to your mindset, in 
whatever sphere of influence I'm able to invoke,  I'll be an advocate to 
the user that just wants it to work and doesn't know the meaning of FOSS 
let alone understand the less tolerant in this camp.

-------------Randy

www.microbabble.com


Jack Wasey wrote:
> I'd like to stress again that the spec is about providing information 
> to allow the user to make a decision. To make an informed choice, 
> people need information.
>
> Ubuntu is indeed against closed protocols in principle, and I 
> discourage Skype for this reason, not to mention their dealings with 
> certain governments. Skype will never be in the Ubuntu repos. Skype 
> reserves the right to start charging for their free service, or, as 
> they planned with Intel, limit use of certain features to people with 
> certain chips. How is this in line with the principles of Ubuntu?
>
>
> Lionel Dricot wrote:
>> I'm strongly opposed to that kind of proposition.
>>
>> IMHO, it's a destructive way. I think that Ubuntu must favor the
>> positive way and build things instead of destruction.
>>
>> It's not by opposition that you will win. It's by making what you want
>> without caring about your enemy.  People will stop using Skype when a
>> free and better alternative will be available.
>>
>> Ubuntu is *NOT* anti-propriatary softwares
>> Ubuntu is *in favour of* free-software.
>>
>> We have to stop thinking about total destruction of our enemy. We have
>> to build our own futur...
>>
>> On 6/5/06, B <baza41 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5 Jun 2006, at 16:01, Jack Wasey wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'd like to invite comments on the new spec:
>>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EthicalInfo
>>> >
>>> > "Ubuntu has a clear policy on using open and free standards. Making
>>> > installation of Skype and several other applications easy
>>> > undermines this policy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm... So make it hard for a user to choose whatever software they
>>> want to run? You can't force people to follow the foss religion if
>>> they don't want to. Most people just want a Linux that works.
>>>
>>> Baz
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