more of an observation about the wiki and less of a rant
Paul O'Malley
ompaul at eircom.net
Mon Feb 6 15:46:08 GMT 2006
Hello,
With regard to the wiki when we consider that this site has grown from a
small effort to who knows how many pages in the short time it has been
up. Whilst we may have the easiest to install and use distro on planet
earth is it the case that "the web site" not "our web site" is in need
of a lot of Ubuntu love to make it "our web site"?
For example:
We still have references to the 2004 google bounties on the foot of the
community page.
We still have copyright 2005 at the foot of all the web pages.
https://www-master.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences
Error 401 - I has wanted to work on it but hey it has been locked down
by someone, I am not being critical of this, just have no idea who
should be contacted.
So at the moment we have parts of a community who are working on part of
the various projects that need to be done. However for each grouping
they are focused as if their part was most central to their own overall
situation. The creation of multiple focus points one for each of the
groups makes sense however it may be that we are missing a huge
opportunity by not having a "hard" connection to and from the various
groups.
What seems to be missing is inter group communication. This idea is not
new. What I am wondering is this, how do we go from the current position
where various groups does not know what the other groups are doing. The
only way at the moment without being involved in all the groups is to
stumble across it.
For example, there is currently a need for a web page that discusses
boot options I can put my hands up on this one. It could be put in
malone as a feature request, though it is hardly appropriate. There is a
fantastic amount of work being done on the wiki.
However have a look at the work done here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecentChanges and you will get an idea of the
scale of what is going on for the last few days. If however there is a
feeling that topic X needs to be on the wiki there does not seem to be a
way of requesting this.
I am loath to suggest a way out from here as it is only one version of
what could be done, but there are more than likely more ideas out there,
and I would imagine better ones at that, so as a starting point is there
use for a single page with the current objectives and WIP of all
projects like an rss accumulator from the individual sites to a page
that feeds back to a page for each of the projects. This way all
projects are tied to all other projects. Does anyone see value in this?
If this work gets done is there any chance that a better search of the
site takes place, as far as I can see the only searching that takes
place at this time is in the topics of a wiki page. Then we end up with
situations like the one I found myself in yesterday, I wrote a page for
the wiki that deals with a very specific circumstance, and the only way
I know to get out of that situation, but given the way I wrote it I
called it what it is a kludge. Now this data is not searchable as
resolution of certain vague hot plug issues during an install, which it
could be called, so it is not really findable, but from an irc
perspective it works. I must have talked 10 or 15 people through this in
irc in the last month. (Can you guess where my focus is? :-))
To sum up this suggestion is a summary page that all groups find on
their part of the wiki and a better search tool for the site.
Regards,
Paul O'Malley
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