[OT] Re: ubuntu for pagans

[Michael Shigorin]

On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 12:35:04PM +0200, Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski wrote:
> > JFYI: in Russian and Ukrainian "poganyj" (directly related to
> > "pagan") means "bad", "poor", "wretched", "spoiled".
> This should prove what, exacly? 

Nothing except there is such meaning and in this particular case 
it's quite connected to the cause.  You see, I'm a bit interested
in etimology.

> JFYI: Fedora measn stink. Go to #fedora and point that out!

Far miss :-) (if you don't count pagans and Ubuntu equal; and
this time language excercises weren't "Ubuntu in Malay" :-)

(err... there's some folklore invloving "Fedora" name in Russian 
too but it's quite off-topic I'm afraid :-)

> > So why spoil software for spoiled people who even aren't
> > creative enough to offer something, well, creative and not
> > twisted, subtle and, um, eroding?
> What are you implying? That pagans (all sort of) are spoiled?

Yep.

> You know that's a generalization, at best? 

I know it's not :-(

> > Heh.  Curing some diseases like yours isn't exactly interesting,
>  Sir, could I point you to the Code of Conduct?

Yes, please.  You can even do that off-list. :-]

> > I'd even step on the soapbox and say that we don't really need
> > those careless "millions of users".  We need those that *are*
> > intelligent and *can* benefit from those developer tools
> I really don't see your point. A guy started thread about
> theming Ubuntu for pagans. Your trying to make him look like a
> fool. Do you have some personal agenda against it? 

Yes, and it's quite experience-based as I've explained and you've
skipped.

> > And I'd be curious enough to ask whether gay folks -- and
> > there are seemingly even more of those than dedicated pagans
> > -- should deserve their gay Ubuntu even before these do...
> > there are lots of diseases, and priding them isn't
> > productive.
> If they will make one, why not?

If.

> Diseases you say?

Yes, those of mind.  The harder ones.

> Should we exclude all non-WASP people from Ubuntu?

Skin color or nationality isn't a disease.  Unless it's really
malaria or "cosmopolitan".

> We should kick out following people:
>  * Black (D'uh! Black people?)

Above.

>  * Not following your religion/belif (cluess morons)

There are roads I've traveled that are fool to travel by.
When I see people doing so, it's better to warn them, eh?
(from experiments with "the other side" to improper fuses
for hand-made rockets, it doesn't matter)

>  * Womans (they should cook, clean and gave births, not think)

Hm, I've always thought that's "women"; go systers.com to get
what I think on this topic. :)

>  * Invalids (if they can't walk, they can't follow my steps!)

Nah.  I know quite bad-seeing hackers, temporarily disabled ones,
and that's not a disease -- something that is counter-productive
and at the same time prone to spread.

PS: some folks like to mix up "freedom" and "everything's allowed". 
It's not so, and it's a disease (usually connected to one of the
above-mentioned) too.

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 ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike at altlinux.ru>
  ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/
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