ubuntu for pagans

[Michael Shigorin]

On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:29:28AM -0400, shane wrote:
> i have an interesting idea for ubuntu as i understand that
> there will be developer tools coming out soon.....

Got a hard time finding any relation but a bit on that later.

> there are many millions of pagans in the world and there are no
> operating systems slated to this genere of people(s) so i had
> an idea based offa some things i know....

Based on some things I know, this genre of people usually may be
worth some other trouble rather than helping mystical habits.

> there are many great windows programs that are for pagans using
> xp themes and such but nothing totaly "paganized" for this
> group of people....

JFYI: in Russian and Ukrainian "poganyj" (directly related to
"pagan") means "bad", "poor", "wretched", "spoiled".

So why spoil software for spoiled people who even aren't creative
enough to offer something, well, creative and not twisted, subtle
and, um, eroding?

> the operating system that i have in mind would be "ubuntu for
> pagans" it would contain fonts and styles as well as programs
> such as a "book of shadows" , "moon tables" a pagan events
> calaender (kinda like what pagan daybook has) and catogrys with
> in the "book of shadows" that would let them sort spells from
> incence recipes, as well as catagorys for potoins and
> rituals.....  the common fonts to chose from would be english
> and various pagan alphabets....the theme would would contain
> paganized icons and and interfaces that would be made
> attractive to this goupe of people....

Not that far ago there was a TYPO3 questionnaire run by some
Dutch institute or so; there was one interesting question along 
"while TYPO3 is GPLed, what do you think about adding special
statement on prohibiting its usage for porn/sexual, racist, ... 
sites?" with 5 bullets (++..0..--).

I've sure mangled the question and it's quite bad on my side but
hope people here get the point -- although GPL is about freedom,
it's also more about author's freedom.  And some of us care
somewhat of our sleepless nights spent over the code to throw
it at the swines' feet, kinda.

> i just started using ubuntu a few monthes ago and i love
> it....so i thought sense i was pagan maybe others might be
> interested in this too....

Heh.  Curing some diseases like yours isn't exactly interesting, 
I can judge somewhat sine I was kind of that sometime, somewhere.
Not letting them disseminate is harder though since being
careless is easier than trying to find the sense of things...

> it would bring millions of potental users away from windows and
> make them want to use linux expecally if there was a distro
> slated for there intrests......

If they have the same nice "stream of mind" writing habits, then 
I guess the maillists just would get flooded with wondering
people asking (or demanding, as it happens with things-for-free)
something they miss from their Windows environment and so on.

I'd even step on the soapbox and say that we don't really need
those careless "millions of users".  We need those that *are*
intelligent and *can* benefit from those developer tools, even if
it's mathematician using "make" to automate his computative
tasks and LaTeX batch processing (instead of Scientific Word or
even -- gasp! -- MS Word for that matter).

And I'd be curious enough to ask whether gay folks -- and there
are seemingly even more of those than dedicated pagans -- should
deserve their gay Ubuntu even before these do... there are lots
of diseases, and priding them isn't productive.

> i would imagine that this could also be used for kubuntu as
> well.....and becuase it would be based on ubuntu it would have
> access to all of the repos that ubuntu has makeing the
> functionaly in the home office and to the normal user more
> likeable.....

Irrelevant.

> i'm not saying that pagans don't use linux just that i think
> they would appriciate that they have something that they can
> call there own.....

Why, they can call their madness their own.  Although it's not
theirs, just the wrong choice made is.

> sorta like ubuntu is "linux for humans" this distro could be "
> linux for pagans" and becuase it's open source it woulden't
> violate any EULA like tweaking microsoft can do..

Irrelevant.

PS: speaking for myself... not our company, country, or Linux team.
But being honest, I could only write what I wrote.  Maybe Mark
will find that idea (or both, including Gaybuntu) just OK.

-- 
 ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike at altlinux.ru>
  ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/
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