John on S8

[John]

Matt Zimmerman wrote:

>On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:24:44AM +0800, John wrote:
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>>Perhaps we differ in terminology. I am referring to what happens after 
>>rebooting as "stage 2."
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>>It asked for the CD, so it should eject it.
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>We're talking about the same thing.  Stage 2 no longer asks for the CD since
>last week.  I think it may have been just slightly after Sounder 8 went out,
>though, which would explain the discrepancy.
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Indeed.

>Now, the packages on the CD are copied during stage 1, and once you reboot,
>the CD is no longer needed.
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I was thinking that might be a good idea.

My most preferred preference is to not need to reboot at all:-)


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>>I am. It's what I had to do in order to test it with a drive not in the 
>>database.
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>When you said "adding new drives", I thought you meant "adding new drives to
>the machine", but you meant "adding to smartmontools the capability to
>monitor new models of drives".  I understand now.
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The problem with English, so many meanings:-|

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>>Some of the configuration tools -  eg Synaptic - invoke sudo to validate 
>>the users.
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>>In other cases where there is no such configuration tool, there is no 
>>GUI way to edit config files. If I open them in gedit, it's read-only 
>>(and it took me a while to figure why it was behaving oddly).
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>>Perhaps I've assumed you're trying to do more than you are.
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>Currently, there are things which can be configured graphically from the
>desktop, and things which cannot.  We do not currently attempt to provide a
>wrapper for editing configuration files by hand.
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>I remember there was a simple tool in Windows 3.1 or so which would open
>some common configuration files (AUTOEXEC.BAT, CONFIG.SYS, etc.) for
>editing, which sounds like what you are proposing.  It didn't seem to catch
>on, though.  Do you think there is a significant "market" for it (users who
>are comfortable editing configuration files, but prefer to do so from a menu
>item rather than from the command line)?  I think there are probably more
>users at either end of the spectrum than in this middle ground, but I have
>no data to back it up.
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I didn't use Windows  3.x (or 2.x or 1.x). I've used later releases 
sparingly; the only reason I now have licences for 98 & 2000 is they 
came with used boxes I bought. Notepad would to it though:-)

The problem I see with U is there's no way to get the privilege needed 
to edit all those text files without using a terminal, a shell, sudo and 
knowing what is a sensible editor to use and how to drive it.

Those are considerable additional hurdles for someone new to *x, and not 
everyone can hurdle as well as Jana Pittman.

I still remember my confusion when I telnetted onto my shell account at 
Iinet from my OS/2 box and was confronted with bash on (probably) RHL 3.0.3.