[Fwd: Re: MOTU Application for Stefan Ebner (sebner)]

[Stefan Ebner]

Daniel Holbach wrote:

> > Stefan Ebner schrieb:
>   
>> > > Daniel Holbach wrote:
>>     
>>> > >> Stefan Ebner schrieb:
>>>       
>>>> > >>> What's important to me? Well, you know ... new upstream versions =)
>>>>         
>>> > >> I'm interested to hear how you decide which ones you pick. Is it "just
>>> > >> new upstream" in general?
>>> > >>
>>>       
>> > > Well, as I said (am I repeating myself?).
>> > > Before DIF I focuse on DaD. There I see new upstream versions which is
>> > > my primary focus.
>> > > As they get less I also merge normal stuff. After DIF , as I said, check
>> > > Debian incoming and yes
>> > > here is my focus on new upstream versions. Well at least I take
>> > > everything which looks interesting (I don't touch java stuff, grrr).
>> > > But as debian incomming is also very limitated I usually also take
>> > > "normal" new debian versions.
>> > > My motto: New day, new versions, new luck.
>>     
> >
> > So just "new upstream versions" in general, but not Java?
> >
> > Once you decided to merge or sync or update to a new upstream version
> > because you're interested in the package, what makes you go "no, I'll
> > better not do this one" when you check it?
> >
>   
That with java was somehow more a joke  ;-) 
It also seems that you think that I just see a upstream version and
sync/merge
it blindly. This is really not the case, first I don't touch stuff like
a new ffmpeg version
because this is more like a package for some specilized people (I
suppose you know
who updates ffmpeg and that stuff in ubuntu). Second. of course I check
if it might
break something or introduce new bugs. For example:
We have wesnoth 1.4.5 in intrepid and I had the change (before FF) to
sync 1.5.x .
Why haven't I done it? Because the 1.5.x series is a development serie
and in my
opinion we would have gotten new features but also tons of new bugs so I
didn't
file a sync request.

> >
>   
>>>> > >>> Can you specific what kind of criticism do you mean?
>>>>         
>>> > >> Criticism in general. Being about what you do, how you do it, a
>>>       
> > specific
>   
>>> > >> way how you fixed something, etc. To work effectively as a team, it's
>>> > >> important that we can listen to each other and find a compromise and
>>> > >> learn.
>>>       
>> > > As everybody (maybe also you at the beginning) I feel/felt a little bit
>> > > frustrated when somebody says me
>> > > about my work: this is wrong, and this and this ... (Also at my
>> > > beginning this pretty often around me)
>>     
> >
> > One reason why I asked this question was that I was surprised about your
> > reaction [1] on one of Scott Kitterman's mails in this thread: you
> > thought about quitting Ubuntu development.
> >
> > Even if there was a misunderstanding involved or there might be a
> > language barrier or whatever else provoked this, I'm a bit concerned
> > over how quickly you'd ponder leaving the team. Did you feel that
> > frustrated on your journey with the MOTU team before already?
>   
I'm sorry for that. I was clearly overreacting and besides I never
really thought
about leaving. Speaking of Scott's answer this "I leave" was more like
"I would be really really
sad if I couldn't continue my work in the way I did it before". Well, as
I said everybody (including me)
feels/felt frustrated sometimes (which is quite normal I think) but
again, I never really thought of leaving.

> >
> > Have a nice day,
> > Daniel
> >
> > [1]
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2008-November/001775.html
> >
>   


PS.: Resending to MC-list. first message is b0rken