The moving target of OS support

[Daniel van Vugt]

My personal experience (and what I've observed in our users over years 
of playing customer support) is that plenty of intelligent people prefer 
LTS over the latest release. For stability and long term support. I feel 
that's a reasonable and intelligent decision to make if someone wants to 
keep their one Ubuntu machine on LTS.


On 12/08/15 11:29, Cemil Azizoglu wrote:
> Is there some external interest in Mir that is prompting this? Do we
> have evidence that there are people that want to contribute but find it
> inconvenient to do so? If so, assuming they have a good reason, it'd
> make sense to support older OS versions. If not, then it doesn't make
> sense to create extra work for ourselves.
>
> If we are going by assumptions, IMHO, people that are motivated and able
> enough to contribute are probably on the cutting edge of technology, and
> may actually prefer using the latest and greatest tools/OS.
>
> Cemil
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Christopher James Halse Rogers
> <chris at cooperteam.net <mailto:chris at cooperteam.net>> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Daniel van Vugt
>     <daniel.van.vugt at canonical.com
>     <mailto:daniel.van.vugt at canonical.com>> wrote:
>
>         We did. C++14 was completely unnecessary and the reason why you
>         can't build Mir on our latest LTS today (without PPAs etc). The
>         change to the code was mostly cosmetic. Yes, that did make our
>         lives slightly easier in parts, but to what cost? If the cost is
>         that some great developers using trusty never get involved in
>         Mir then I think it's too high.
>
>
>     Yeah, I think the entirety of our disagreement lies in our estimate
>     of this cost. I assign a negligible probability to the statement “we
>     would have had some great contributions to Mir if only it could
>     build on 14.04 without adding PPAs”.
>
>     I agree that it *lowers* the probability, but (a) I think the
>     absolutely zero-extra-friction probability of contribution is on the
>     low side, and (b) the extra friction of adding an
>     Ubuntu-core-team-supported PPA to install gcc-5 is negligable.
>
>
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