[lubuntu-users] dropping i386/PPC (was: Re: [lubuntu-devel] State of PPC)

Walter Lapchynski wxl at ubuntu.com
Thu Nov 17 00:45:27 UTC 2016

PPC has been dropped as a release architecture in Debian. It's not looking
too good there.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/16/2016 04:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> Aere: I think what Ubuntu is discussing is removing i386/x86/32-bit, i.e.
> going all amd64/x64/64-bit. And yes, it would very negatively impact many
> Lubuntu users as well as the goals of the Lubuntu project as a whole.
> Unfortunately, I was not able to make it to the session. For those of us
> in the same boat, here's some links:
>  * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXzYG4d7poQ
>  * EtherPad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1611-architecture-discussions
>  * IRC: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/11/16/%23ubuntu-uos-
> core.html#t14:55
> The majority of this conversation concerned PPC. I think the long answer
> is there are some rather annoying endian bugs and a yaboot issue that no
> one currently supporting PPC (Lubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Server) has the
> resources to deal with. Not to mention upstream. I'll let those leading the
> discussion (cc'd) confirm this, but it sounds like by when support for
> existing PPC releases end, it will be time to stop providing any sort of
> PPC images.
> As far as my perspective is concerned, I'm perfectly happy with dropping
> PPC. It makes me sad. PPC brought me to the Lubuntu community. However, it
> becomes increasingly harder to make PPC users happy. The successes that we
> have had in recent times are largely by accident. Neither Lubuntu nor
> Ubuntu MATE have the resources to support PPC. It does sound like Ubuntu
> Server will be dropping PPC. I think it only makes sense for us to follow
> suit.
> Apparently, there are plans in place to evaluate the health of the PPC
> port during the Z cycle and so a decision on removing PPC from the archives
> will likely come in 6 months time. Even then, it sounds like that's going
> to be a temporary delay to PPC's inevitable removal.
> We can still use Debian PPC if Ubuntu drops support, and Debian currently
> supports PPAs, though PPC could only use non-binary PPAs (icons/gtk
> themes/scripts/python programs/etc)
> Could there be a push to get some of the Lubuntu goodies upstream to
> Debian?  I am thinking of things like Rafael's artwork specifically.  There
> are not too many Lubuntu specific programs not available in Debian, that I
> am aware of.
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