<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">PPC has been dropped as a release architecture in Debian. It's not looking too good there.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Israel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com" target="_blank">israeldahl@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-8811907487651752138moz-cite-prefix">On 11/16/2016 04:58 PM, Walter
Lapchynski wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Aere: I think
what Ubuntu is discussing is removing i386/x86/32-bit, i.e.
going all amd64/x64/64-bit. And yes, it would very negatively
impact many Lubuntu users as well as the goals of the Lubuntu
project as a whole.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Unfortunately,
I was not able to make it to the session. For those of us in
the same boat, here's some links:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> * YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXzYG4d7poQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch?v=jXzYG4d7poQ</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> * EtherPad: <a href="http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1611-architecture-discussions" target="_blank">http://pad.ubuntu.<wbr>com/uos-1611-architecture-<wbr>discussions</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> * IRC: <a href="https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/11/16/%23ubuntu-uos-core.html#t14:55" target="_blank">https://irclogs.ubuntu.<wbr>com/2016/11/16/%23ubuntu-uos-<wbr>core.html#t14:55</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The majority of
this conversation concerned PPC. I think the long answer is
there are some rather annoying endian bugs and a yaboot issue
that no one currently supporting PPC (Lubuntu, Ubuntu MATE,
Ubuntu Server) has the resources to deal with. Not to mention
upstream. I'll let those leading the discussion (cc'd) confirm
this, but it sounds like by when support for existing PPC
releases end, it will be time to stop providing any sort of
PPC images.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As far as my
perspective is concerned, I'm perfectly happy with dropping
PPC. It makes me sad. PPC brought me to the Lubuntu community.
However, it becomes increasingly harder to make PPC users
happy. The successes that we have had in recent times are
largely by accident. Neither Lubuntu nor Ubuntu MATE have the
resources to support PPC. It does sound like Ubuntu Server
will be dropping PPC. I think it only makes sense for us to
follow suit.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Apparently,
there are plans in place to evaluate the health of the PPC
port during the Z cycle and so a decision on removing PPC from
the archives will likely come in 6 months time. Even then, it
sounds like that's going to be a temporary delay to PPC's
inevitable removal.</div>
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We can still use Debian PPC if Ubuntu drops support, and Debian
currently supports PPAs, though PPC could only use non-binary PPAs
(icons/gtk themes/scripts/python programs/etc)<br>
Could there be a push to get some of the Lubuntu goodies upstream to
Debian? I am thinking of things like Rafael's artwork
specifically. There are not too many Lubuntu specific programs not
available in Debian, that I am aware of.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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