[lubuntu-users] Chinese goodies

[scrooyahoo at riseup.net]

Hi Mark,


My experience with China isn't too bad, though i also had a few minor 
disappointments. And Ali fixed the the disputes queit well, though you 
have to deal with some robots, and translation stuff
I must add that EBAY had caused me much bigger headaches then Ali. And 
in my case EBAY also protected the crooks.

Thing is this: for 20 Euro you can buy a pretty capable machine, and 
this might render secondhand PC's out of the picture as this could 
outperform more expensive secondhand hardware that consumes more cost 
power in a year then what this little board costs. And this consumes 
about 10 Watt.

I already took the gamble and ordered one, so i will report back what i 
get and eventual headaches i discover .

In a way i'm also curious how Canonical approaches this development

I mean, DELL only offered the most expensive machines with Ubuntu, (last 
time i looked) and only the main Flavour. I was shopping for a cheap 
notebook... So DELL  was a big waste of time. Even when i asked support 
there was NO WAY they would sell me a cheap machine.
Then when i reluctantly asked how long it would ship to europe then they 
told me that it was only available for the US market.

This is some time ago so maybe they changed their minds by now. For me 
that completely put DELL on the bottom of my list, and i never went back 
to even look what they offer these days.

Would be nice to know Canonical's thoughts on-cheap-as chips Chinese 
goodies.

I expect a few bumps with this hardware, but maybe it will surprise me.

So if anyone has any experience with this please let me know,.





On 2016-12-01 00:40, Mark F wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:34 PM, <scrooyahoo at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
>>  And in China you can get a Brandnew quadcore (without an enclosure) 
>> for
>> less then 20 Euro.
> 
> 
> Three of the five times I bought something from AliExpress it was 
> falsely
> advertised (didn't receive what was specified). Even worse, AliExpress
> seems to condone/protect this. The dispute process is a joke, offering 
> 10
> cents on the dollar refund (or, pay the postage to return the item 
> which
> you wouldn't have purchased if it had been accurately advertised). If 
> you
> don't take the token apology, AliExpress resolves the dispute entirely 
> in
> the seller's favor.
> 
> One of the most crooked places I've ever encountered. (Not all sellers 
> are.
> But, a large percent are, and AliExpress seems to protect them.).
> 
> So.... what you see and what you receive may be two entirely different
> things. I wouldn't get too excited until you (or someone you trust)
> receives it.
> 
> Good luck. (Maybe my experience isn't representative. But, what I
> encountered was *shameless* deceit.).