Fwd: Keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+C CTRL+V) don't work when keyboard is set to Hebrew
Walter Lapchynski
wxl at ubuntu.com
Sun Mar 1 20:05:58 UTC 2015
Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth trying with both.
On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers for the
> Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try.
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> אלעד הן
> נייד: 052-5348554
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> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the `ibus-m17n`
>> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in `ibus-setup`. I
>> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method and was
>> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US keyboard,
>> so that might not be a good test ☺
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thank you very much.
>> >
>> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every program and even
>> > in
>> the
>> > file manager).
>> >
>> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps.
>> >
>> > I came across this bit of information:
>> >
>> > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586
>> >
>> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they describe is the
>> > same
>> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > אלעד הן
>> > נייד: 052-5348554
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in Israel][1] that you
>> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have probably
>> >> faced the same issue.
>> >>
>> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have different
>> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the hood" Ubuntu
>> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful to ask in
>> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution is. If you
>> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an
>> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution.
>> >>
>> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? If it's
>> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has better
>> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package
>> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support for Hebrew.
>> >>
>> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative keyboard
>> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through the
>> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man
>> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly obvious, so
>> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably has your
>> >> solution.
>> >>
>> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular application
>> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its
>> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make that
>> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or option provides
>> >> the answer.
>> >>
>> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. Sure seems
>> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching to another
>> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see you can
>> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change.
>> >>
>> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be written by
>> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do, referencing the
>> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they probably
>> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys.
>> >>
>> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps even better,
>> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki page][2].
>> >> Good luck!
>> >>
>> >> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/
>> >> [2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן <elad2040 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to understand most of
>> >> > what
>> >> > you said though :(
>> >> >
>> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux...
>> >> >
>> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in "preferences" and
>> >> > there
>> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > אלעד הן
>> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this wrong but
>> bare
>> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this problem, but
>> although
>> >> >> I've
>> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a solution.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit version) on my
>> >> >> old
>> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've found the
>> >> >> Keyboard
>> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched to Hebrew.
>> This
>> >> >> means
>> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I first have to
>> >> >> switch
>> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to Hebrew. This
>> is a
>> >> >> very
>> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the shortcuts hardly
>> short.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> אלעד הן
>> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Elad,
>> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is mapped. The
>> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly. Which would
>> >> >> make
>> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes 'C'? There are
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least
>> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You may find something here:
>> >> >> http://penguin.org.il/
>> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, though that is a
>> >> >> guess.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though. You might try
>> asking
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a local Linux
>> >> >> User
>> >> >> Group.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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