Fwd: Keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+C CTRL+V) don't work when keyboard is set to Hebrew

אלעד הן eladhen2 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 1 20:09:35 UTC 2015


Well, I installed it but now embarrassingly I have no Idea where ibus-setup
is...

Anyway, as far as I know there are no physical differences between US and
Hebrew keyboards.




אלעד הן
נייד: 052-5348554

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth trying with
> both.
>
> On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers for the
> > Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > אלעד הן
> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the `ibus-m17n`
> >> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in `ibus-setup`. I
> >> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method and was
> >> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US keyboard,
> >> so that might not be a good test ☺
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <eladhen2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Thank you very much.
> >> >
> >> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every program and even
> >> > in
> >> the
> >> > file manager).
> >> >
> >> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps.
> >> >
> >> > I came across this bit of information:
> >> >
> >> > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586
> >> >
> >> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they describe is the
> >> > same
> >> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > אלעד הן
> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in Israel][1] that you
> >> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have probably
> >> >> faced the same issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have different
> >> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the hood" Ubuntu
> >> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful to ask in
> >> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution is. If you
> >> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an
> >> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? If it's
> >> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has better
> >> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package
> >> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support for Hebrew.
> >> >>
> >> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative keyboard
> >> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through the
> >> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man
> >> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly obvious, so
> >> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably has your
> >> >> solution.
> >> >>
> >> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular application
> >> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its
> >> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make that
> >> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or option provides
> >> >> the answer.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. Sure seems
> >> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching to another
> >> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see you can
> >> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change.
> >> >>
> >> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be written by
> >> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do, referencing the
> >> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they probably
> >> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps even
> better,
> >> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki page][2].
> >> >> Good luck!
> >> >>
> >> >> [1]: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/
> >> >> [2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן <elad2040 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to understand most
> of
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > you said though :(
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in "preferences"
> and
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > אלעד הן
> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this wrong but
> >> bare
> >> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this problem, but
> >> although
> >> >> >> I've
> >> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a solution.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit version) on my
> >> >> >> old
> >> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've found the
> >> >> >> Keyboard
> >> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched to Hebrew.
> >> This
> >> >> >> means
> >> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I first have to
> >> >> >> switch
> >> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to Hebrew. This
> >> is a
> >> >> >> very
> >> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the shortcuts hardly
> >> short.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thank you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> אלעד הן
> >> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi Elad,
> >> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is mapped.
> The
> >> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly.   Which
> would
> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes 'C'?  There are
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> least
> >> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You may find something here:
> >> >> >> http://penguin.org.il/
> >> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, though that is
> a
> >> >> >> guess.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though.  You might try
> >> asking
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a local Linux
> >> >> >> User
> >> >> >> Group.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Regards
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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