Touchpad trouble.
Andre Campos Rodovalho
andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
Mon Dec 7 17:38:30 UTC 2015
Hi Walter, please type the following commands on Lxterminal and paste the
results here for us to check out...
*cat /proc/bus/input/devices*
and than
*xinput list*
2015-12-07 15:29 GMT-02:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
>:
> Hi Walter, please type the following commands on Lxterminal and paste the
> results here for us to check out...
>
> *cat /proc/bus/input/devices*
>
> and than
>
> *xinput list*
>
>
>
> 2015-12-07 10:57 GMT-02:00 Walter Orsi <walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com>:
>
>> Well, I'll tell you several results and several tests I've made.
>>
>> I'll begin for the end: the tests I've made. I've installed Lubuntu on
>> several computers, desktops and notebooks. I've run synclient command in
>> the other notebooks I installed Lubuntu and the results are quite
>> confusing. In all notebooks I run synclient command, touchpad works
>> properly though I have no idea if it's synaptics touchpad or not (later
>> I'll mention something that may give a clue). First, I run it on a msi wind
>> U100 notebook and it displayed the same result it displays on mine
>> (Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?), though
>> in the case of the msi wind u100 the touchpad works. I run synclient on the
>> msi wind u100 with touchpad enabled and disabled and displays the same
>> message. Then, I run synclient on an acer aspire 3690 notebook and a hp
>> compaq nx9010 notebook, in wich the touchpads also work properly, and in
>> both cases displayed what it has to. The following link mentions that msi
>> changed Synaptics touchpad for a Sentellic one in the msi wind models:
>>
>>
>> http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/04/replace-the-msi-winds-touchpad-for-under-20/
>>
>> In all the cases of the notebooks mentioned above, I've checked
>> */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptic.conf* files and they seem to
>> look like the one of my notebook, though my touchpad doesn't work.
>>
>> Following several links I found in spanish (my mother tongue) about how
>> to enable the touchpad on LXDE (I've realized I get more results if I look
>> up how to do something on LXDE than if I write Lubuntu instead) and before
>> posting my question on the Lubuntu mailing list (since I couldn't solve it
>> by myself), I edited /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf adding in
>> the section InputClass and before the EndSection line the following:
>>
>> Option “TapButton1″ “1″
>> Option “VertEdgeScroll” “1″
>>
>> It didn't worked.
>>
>> I read the link Eric recommended, which was very interesting, and created
>> the */etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf* file it suggests with the following
>> lonely line:
>>
>> options psmouse proto=auto
>>
>> It keeps not working.
>>
>> I've checked permissions and owner as Andre mentioned and I got exactly
>> what Andre said it should be:
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27 nov 26 12:02 /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1699 nov 27 21:55
>> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
>>
>> This is how it looked my */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptic.conf*
>> file before editing it:
>>
>> # Example xorg.conf.d snippet that assigns the touchpad driver
>> # to all touchpads. See xorg.conf.d(5) for more information on
>> # InputClass.
>> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, your distribution will likely overwrite
>> # it when updating. Copy (and rename) this file into
>> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d first.
>> # Additional options may be added in the form of
>> # Option "OptionName" "value"
>> #
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "touchpad catchall"
>> Driver "synaptics"
>> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
>> # This option is recommend on all Linux systems using evdev, but cannot be
>> # enabled by default. See the following link for details:
>> #
>> http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-ignore-configuration-errors.html
>> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "touchpad ignore duplicates"
>> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
>> MatchOS "Linux"
>> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/mouse*"
>> Option "Ignore" "on"
>> EndSection
>>
>> # This option enables the bottom right corner to be a right button on
>> # non-synaptics clickpads.
>> # This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "Default clickpad buttons"
>> MatchDriver "synaptics"
>> Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"
>> # To disable the bottom edge area so the buttons only work as
>> buttons,
>> # not for movement, set the AreaBottomEdge
>> # Option "AreaBottomEdge" "82%"
>> EndSection
>>
>> # This option disables software buttons on Apple touchpads.
>> # This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "Disable clickpad buttons on Apple touchpads"
>> MatchProduct "Apple|bcm5974"
>> MatchDriver "synaptics"
>> Option "SoftButtonAreas" "0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0"
>> EndSection
>>
>> This is how it looks now after edition according to the links I've found
>> and you've recommended:
>>
>> # Example xorg.conf.d snippet that assigns the touchpad driver
>> # to all touchpads. See xorg.conf.d(5) for more information on
>> # InputClass.
>> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, your distribution will likely overwrite
>> # it when updating. Copy (and rename) this file into
>> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d first.
>> # Additional options may be added in the form of
>> # Option "OptionName" "value"
>> #
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "touchpad"
>> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
>> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
>> Driver "synaptics"
>> # This option is recommend on all Linux systems using evdev, but cannot be
>> # enabled by default. See the following link for details:
>> #
>> http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-ignore-configuration-errors.html
>> Option "TapButton1" "1"
>> Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "touchpad ignore duplicates"
>> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
>> MatchOS "Linux"
>> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/mouse*"
>> Option "Ignore" "on"
>> EndSection
>>
>> # This option enables the bottom right corner to be a right button on
>> # non-synaptics clickpads.
>> # This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "Default clickpad buttons"
>> MatchDriver "synaptics"
>> Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"
>> # To disable the bottom edge area so the buttons only work as
>> buttons,
>> # not for movement, set the AreaBottomEdge
>> # Option "AreaBottomEdge" "82%"
>> EndSection
>>
>> # This option disables software buttons on Apple touchpads.
>> # This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
>> Section "InputClass"
>> Identifier "Disable clickpad buttons on Apple touchpads"
>> MatchProduct "Apple|bcm5974"
>> MatchDriver "synaptics"
>> Option "SoftButtonAreas" "0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0"
>> EndSection
>>
>> I've also read some general configuration links I've found and you've
>> recommended and it seems to be I've done what it's supposed to be done, but
>> doesn't work yet. At least, if there's any mistake or missing line, I seem
>> not to realize.
>>
>> Sorry if I wrote too long this time but I wanted you to have an overview
>> of what I've done up to now, with what I've found and your help, and the
>> results I've got...
>>
>> Thanks you all for your time!
>>
>> 2015-11-30 13:29 GMT-03:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <
>> andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Walter, I'm sorry about that malformed phrase. I did a correction
>>> that actually made it wrong. I meant* "maybe your device IS logically
>>> diconnected to the system"*. So, what you should do is to connect it
>>> (logically using the shortcut) then try to run the command *sudo
>>> synclient -l* when switching touchpad on and off to see if any
>>> information is shown different from that odd message "No synaptics driver
>>> is loaded".
>>>
>>> If anything is shown, try to reboot your computer after switching on/off
>>> the touchpad. After the reboot run *sudo synclient -l* to see if
>>> anything is shown as expected...
>>>
>>> Post the results for us...
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-11-30 13:19 GMT-02:00 Walter Orsi <walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Andre:
>>>>
>>>> You're right, my notebook has a keyboard shorcut *(Fn + Esc)* to
>>>> enable/disable the touchpad. Now, what do you mean by "*maybe your
>>>> device is not logically diconnected to the system*"? How do I realize
>>>> of that and what should I do? I've pressed the shorcut several times after
>>>> doing all what you've suggested me and it doesn't work yet. I don't have
>>>> any led to realize if it is on/off... with the touchpad working, you just
>>>> realize by trying to move it: if it moves is enabled, and disabled if
>>>> doesn't.
>>>>
>>>> I've checked both files owner and permissions with *ls -l* command and
>>>> everything is the way you mentioned it should be:
>>>>
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27 nov 26 12:02 /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1699 nov 27 21:55
>>>> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
>>>>
>>>> I can't realize what am I doing wrong... later I'll tell you all, step
>>>> by step, what I've made... Maybe one of you realizes where the mistake is.
>>>>
>>>> Once again, thank you all for your help... I still cannot solve it but
>>>> I'm learning a lot because of your support and contributions (commentaries,
>>>> links to read...)
>>>>
>>>> Greetings!
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-27 8:26 GMT-03:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <
>>>> andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> synclient message means what it says "No synaptics driver is loaded".
>>>>> The OS does not find any information about it, maybe because the hardware
>>>>> is not connected, maybe because it has no configuration to load the module.
>>>>>
>>>>> This notebook has any form to cancel the trackpad movements? Some
>>>>> notebooks have a keyboard shortcut to make null any interactions with
>>>>> trackpad. In case it has this shortcut, maybe your device is not logically
>>>>> diconnected to the system.
>>>>>
>>>>> */etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf* and
>>>>> */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-touchpad.conf* must have the same
>>>>> owner and permissions to the other files on the folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably *owner: root*, and *permission: read for owner*, *group and
>>>>> others, and write only for owner* (-rw-r--r--)
>>>>>
>>>>> Another page for you to check as reference is this:
>>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-11-26 17:19 GMT-02:00 Walter Orsi <walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andre:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gotta check ownership and permissions of both files,
>>>>>> */etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf* and
>>>>>> */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-touchpad.conf*??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who should be the owner and what permissions should I set up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry if the questions are too silly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, what does it mean the result that synclient displayed (
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?)??*
>>>>>> Thanks to everyone for your support and help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-11-24 11:34 GMT-03:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <
>>>>>> andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following the instructions of Eric's Link, you might need to create
>>>>>>> the* /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf *file, than put the content:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> options psmouse proto=auto
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After that create */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-touchpad.conf*
>>>>>>> with the content:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Section "InputClass"
>>>>>>> Identifier "touchpad"
>>>>>>> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
>>>>>>> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
>>>>>>> Driver "synaptics"
>>>>>>> Option "TapButton1" "1"
>>>>>>> Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
>>>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check for files ownership and permissions.. Than reboot to test!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-11-24 12:17 GMT-02:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <
>>>>>>> andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no */etc/X11/xorg.conf* in Lubuntu by default...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Ubuntu, this file is replaced by others files begining with
>>>>>>>> numbers inside the directory* /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can create any file with the *xorg.conf* file format inside
>>>>>>>> this directory. The number on filenames is only for processing order...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-11-24 11:43 GMT-02:00 Walter Orsi <walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your ideas and information, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've messed with xorg.config, though I couldn't make it work, yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for my ignorance but is xorg.config a file itself? What I've
>>>>>>>>> found on my Lubuntu is that xorg.config is a directory. Inside of it there
>>>>>>>>> are several files (50-synaptics..., 10-synaptics) that seem to be related
>>>>>>>>> with the touchpad... at least that what it seemed to me after reading some
>>>>>>>>> things about it on the web looking for a solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once again, thank you and thanks to every one who has given me
>>>>>>>>> part of his time to answer my e-mail and give me some guide.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Walter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-23 23:46 GMT-03:00 Eric Bradshaw <
>>>>>>>>> ericbradshaw at computers4christians.org>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Israel and Brendan:
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks you both for your answers and sorry for the lack of
>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>> I'll begin with the general information:
>>>>>>>>>> - lsb_release command displays the following about the version of
>>>>>>>>>> Lubuntu
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using:
>>>>>>>>>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
>>>>>>>>>> Codename: trusty
>>>>>>>>>> - I'm using the 32-bits version of Lubuntu though I've recently
>>>>>>>>>> discovered
>>>>>>>>>> (running dmidecode command) my notebook supports 64-bits.
>>>>>>>>>> - dmidecode and lshw commands display the following about
>>>>>>>>>> Processor and
>>>>>>>>>> Base Board:
>>>>>>>>>> Processor Information
>>>>>>>>>> Version: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N550 @ 1.50GHz
>>>>>>>>>> Base Board Information
>>>>>>>>>> Manufacturer: INTEL Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> Product Name: Tiger Hill
>>>>>>>>>> However, according to a brochure I have, my notebook has the
>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>> - Processor: Intel? AtomTM Dual Core N2600
>>>>>>>>>> - Chipset: NM10 Express
>>>>>>>>>> - It's brand name is OLIDATA (kinda unknown world-wide, actually)
>>>>>>>>>> lsusb command displayed the following:
>>>>>>>>>> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 152d:0313 JMicron Technology Corp. /
>>>>>>>>>> JMicron USA
>>>>>>>>>> Technology Corp.
>>>>>>>>>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
>>>>>>>>>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>>>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>>>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>>>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1bcf:0007 Sunplus Innovation Technology
>>>>>>>>>> Inc. Optical
>>>>>>>>>> Mouse
>>>>>>>>>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>>>> I also run lshw command but it dislpayed a lot of info and I
>>>>>>>>>> really don't
>>>>>>>>>> know which one would be usefull for this purpose (usb, pci, isa,
>>>>>>>>>> ide...)
>>>>>>>>>> lshw information about isa bridge, ide interface and some usb
>>>>>>>>>> controllers
>>>>>>>>>> confirms some of the information of the brochure mentioned above:
>>>>>>>>>> usb:0
>>>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1
>>>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> usb:1
>>>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2
>>>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> usb:2
>>>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3
>>>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> usb:3
>>>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4
>>>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> usb:4
>>>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller
>>>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> isa
>>>>>>>>>> descripci?n: ISA bridge
>>>>>>>>>> producto: NM10 Family LPC Controller
>>>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> ide
>>>>>>>>>> descripci?n: IDE interface
>>>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode]
>>>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> I also run synclient command as Brendan suggested and got this
>>>>>>>>>> answer:
>>>>>>>>>> *Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?*
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Walter,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm no expert on track pads, but whenever I've needed one to
>>>>>>>>>> work, or work better; I've almost always had to mess with/create an
>>>>>>>>>> xorg.conf file to address it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gksudo leafpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Searching the Internet for your laptop specs led me to believe
>>>>>>>>>> it's very similar (if not the same computer without a famous name) to an
>>>>>>>>>> Acer Aspire D270. So, if you find an xorg.config for that laptop, you may
>>>>>>>>>> want to try it and/or tweak it from someone elses.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And even though the following page is intended for Gentoo Linux
>>>>>>>>>> (so a lot of it won't apply), it includes an xorg section that seems to
>>>>>>>>>> address the trackpad among other things. You may want to check it out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://dweezil.be/aod270/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>>>>>> God Bless You,
>>>>>>>>>> Computers4Christians
>>>>>>>>>> http://Computers4Christians.org/
>>>>>>>>>>
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