Touchpad trouble.
Walter Orsi
walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com
Mon Dec 7 12:57:43 UTC 2015
Well, I'll tell you several results and several tests I've made.
I'll begin for the end: the tests I've made. I've installed Lubuntu on
several computers, desktops and notebooks. I've run synclient command in
the other notebooks I installed Lubuntu and the results are quite
confusing. In all notebooks I run synclient command, touchpad works
properly though I have no idea if it's synaptics touchpad or not (later
I'll mention something that may give a clue). First, I run it on a msi wind
U100 notebook and it displayed the same result it displays on mine
(Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?), though
in the case of the msi wind u100 the touchpad works. I run synclient on the
msi wind u100 with touchpad enabled and disabled and displays the same
message. Then, I run synclient on an acer aspire 3690 notebook and a hp
compaq nx9010 notebook, in wich the touchpads also work properly, and in
both cases displayed what it has to. The following link mentions that msi
changed Synaptics touchpad for a Sentellic one in the msi wind models:
http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/04/replace-the-msi-winds-touchpad-for-under-20/
In all the cases of the notebooks mentioned above, I've checked
*/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptic.conf* files and they seem to look
like the one of my notebook, though my touchpad doesn't work.
Following several links I found in spanish (my mother tongue) about how to
enable the touchpad on LXDE (I've realized I get more results if I look up
how to do something on LXDE than if I write Lubuntu instead) and before
posting my question on the Lubuntu mailing list (since I couldn't solve it
by myself), I edited /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf adding in
the section InputClass and before the EndSection line the following:
Option “TapButton1″ “1″
Option “VertEdgeScroll” “1″
It didn't worked.
I read the link Eric recommended, which was very interesting, and created
the */etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf* file it suggests with the following
lonely line:
options psmouse proto=auto
It keeps not working.
I've checked permissions and owner as Andre mentioned and I got exactly
what Andre said it should be:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27 nov 26 12:02 /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1699 nov 27 21:55
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
This is how it looked my */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptic.conf* file
before editing it:
# Example xorg.conf.d snippet that assigns the touchpad driver
# to all touchpads. See xorg.conf.d(5) for more information on
# InputClass.
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, your distribution will likely overwrite
# it when updating. Copy (and rename) this file into
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d first.
# Additional options may be added in the form of
# Option "OptionName" "value"
#
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad catchall"
Driver "synaptics"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
# This option is recommend on all Linux systems using evdev, but cannot be
# enabled by default. See the following link for details:
# http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-ignore-configuration-errors.html
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
EndSection
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad ignore duplicates"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
MatchOS "Linux"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/mouse*"
Option "Ignore" "on"
EndSection
# This option enables the bottom right corner to be a right button on
# non-synaptics clickpads.
# This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Default clickpad buttons"
MatchDriver "synaptics"
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"
# To disable the bottom edge area so the buttons only work as buttons,
# not for movement, set the AreaBottomEdge
# Option "AreaBottomEdge" "82%"
EndSection
# This option disables software buttons on Apple touchpads.
# This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Disable clickpad buttons on Apple touchpads"
MatchProduct "Apple|bcm5974"
MatchDriver "synaptics"
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0"
EndSection
This is how it looks now after edition according to the links I've found
and you've recommended:
# Example xorg.conf.d snippet that assigns the touchpad driver
# to all touchpads. See xorg.conf.d(5) for more information on
# InputClass.
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, your distribution will likely overwrite
# it when updating. Copy (and rename) this file into
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d first.
# Additional options may be added in the form of
# Option "OptionName" "value"
#
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Driver "synaptics"
# This option is recommend on all Linux systems using evdev, but cannot be
# enabled by default. See the following link for details:
# http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-ignore-configuration-errors.html
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
EndSection
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad ignore duplicates"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
MatchOS "Linux"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/mouse*"
Option "Ignore" "on"
EndSection
# This option enables the bottom right corner to be a right button on
# non-synaptics clickpads.
# This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Default clickpad buttons"
MatchDriver "synaptics"
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"
# To disable the bottom edge area so the buttons only work as buttons,
# not for movement, set the AreaBottomEdge
# Option "AreaBottomEdge" "82%"
EndSection
# This option disables software buttons on Apple touchpads.
# This option is only interpreted by clickpads.
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Disable clickpad buttons on Apple touchpads"
MatchProduct "Apple|bcm5974"
MatchDriver "synaptics"
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0"
EndSection
I've also read some general configuration links I've found and you've
recommended and it seems to be I've done what it's supposed to be done, but
doesn't work yet. At least, if there's any mistake or missing line, I seem
not to realize.
Sorry if I wrote too long this time but I wanted you to have an overview of
what I've done up to now, with what I've found and your help, and the
results I've got...
Thanks you all for your time!
2015-11-30 13:29 GMT-03:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
>:
> Hi Walter, I'm sorry about that malformed phrase. I did a correction that
> actually made it wrong. I meant* "maybe your device IS logically
> diconnected to the system"*. So, what you should do is to connect it
> (logically using the shortcut) then try to run the command *sudo
> synclient -l* when switching touchpad on and off to see if any
> information is shown different from that odd message "No synaptics driver
> is loaded".
>
> If anything is shown, try to reboot your computer after switching on/off
> the touchpad. After the reboot run *sudo synclient -l* to see if anything
> is shown as expected...
>
> Post the results for us...
>
>
> 2015-11-30 13:19 GMT-02:00 Walter Orsi <walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com>:
>
>> Andre:
>>
>> You're right, my notebook has a keyboard shorcut *(Fn + Esc)* to
>> enable/disable the touchpad. Now, what do you mean by "*maybe your
>> device is not logically diconnected to the system*"? How do I realize of
>> that and what should I do? I've pressed the shorcut several times after
>> doing all what you've suggested me and it doesn't work yet. I don't have
>> any led to realize if it is on/off... with the touchpad working, you just
>> realize by trying to move it: if it moves is enabled, and disabled if
>> doesn't.
>>
>> I've checked both files owner and permissions with *ls -l* command and
>> everything is the way you mentioned it should be:
>>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27 nov 26 12:02 /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1699 nov 27 21:55
>> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
>>
>> I can't realize what am I doing wrong... later I'll tell you all, step by
>> step, what I've made... Maybe one of you realizes where the mistake is.
>>
>> Once again, thank you all for your help... I still cannot solve it but
>> I'm learning a lot because of your support and contributions (commentaries,
>> links to read...)
>>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> 2015-11-27 8:26 GMT-03:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <
>> andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> synclient message means what it says "No synaptics driver is loaded".
>>> The OS does not find any information about it, maybe because the hardware
>>> is not connected, maybe because it has no configuration to load the module.
>>>
>>> This notebook has any form to cancel the trackpad movements? Some
>>> notebooks have a keyboard shortcut to make null any interactions with
>>> trackpad. In case it has this shortcut, maybe your device is not logically
>>> diconnected to the system.
>>>
>>> */etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf* and
>>> */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-touchpad.conf* must have the same owner
>>> and permissions to the other files on the folder.
>>>
>>> Probably *owner: root*, and *permission: read for owner*, *group and
>>> others, and write only for owner* (-rw-r--r--)
>>>
>>> Another page for you to check as reference is this:
>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
>>>
>>> 2015-11-26 17:19 GMT-02:00 Walter Orsi <walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Andre:
>>>>
>>>> I gotta check ownership and permissions of both files,
>>>> */etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf* and
>>>> */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-touchpad.conf*??
>>>>
>>>> Who should be the owner and what permissions should I set up?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if the questions are too silly.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, what does it mean the result that synclient displayed (
>>>>
>>>> *Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?)??*
>>>> Thanks to everyone for your support and help.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-24 11:34 GMT-03:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <
>>>> andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Following the instructions of Eric's Link, you might need to create the*
>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf *file, than put the content:
>>>>>
>>>>> options psmouse proto=auto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After that create */usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-touchpad.conf* with
>>>>> the content:
>>>>>
>>>>> Section "InputClass"
>>>>> Identifier "touchpad"
>>>>> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
>>>>> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
>>>>> Driver "synaptics"
>>>>> Option "TapButton1" "1"
>>>>> Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Check for files ownership and permissions.. Than reboot to test!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-11-24 12:17 GMT-02:00 Andre Campos Rodovalho <
>>>>> andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no */etc/X11/xorg.conf* in Lubuntu by default...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Ubuntu, this file is replaced by others files begining with
>>>>>> numbers inside the directory* /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can create any file with the *xorg.conf* file format inside this
>>>>>> directory. The number on filenames is only for processing order...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-11-24 11:43 GMT-02:00 Walter Orsi <walter.orsi.uy at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your ideas and information, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've messed with xorg.config, though I couldn't make it work, yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for my ignorance but is xorg.config a file itself? What I've
>>>>>>> found on my Lubuntu is that xorg.config is a directory. Inside of it there
>>>>>>> are several files (50-synaptics..., 10-synaptics) that seem to be related
>>>>>>> with the touchpad... at least that what it seemed to me after reading some
>>>>>>> things about it on the web looking for a solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again, thank you and thanks to every one who has given me part
>>>>>>> of his time to answer my e-mail and give me some guide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Walter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-11-23 23:46 GMT-03:00 Eric Bradshaw <
>>>>>>> ericbradshaw at computers4christians.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Israel and Brendan:
>>>>>>>> Thanks you both for your answers and sorry for the lack of
>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>> I'll begin with the general information:
>>>>>>>> - lsb_release command displays the following about the version of
>>>>>>>> Lubuntu
>>>>>>>> I'm using:
>>>>>>>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
>>>>>>>> Codename: trusty
>>>>>>>> - I'm using the 32-bits version of Lubuntu though I've recently
>>>>>>>> discovered
>>>>>>>> (running dmidecode command) my notebook supports 64-bits.
>>>>>>>> - dmidecode and lshw commands display the following about Processor
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Base Board:
>>>>>>>> Processor Information
>>>>>>>> Version: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N550 @ 1.50GHz
>>>>>>>> Base Board Information
>>>>>>>> Manufacturer: INTEL Corporation
>>>>>>>> Product Name: Tiger Hill
>>>>>>>> However, according to a brochure I have, my notebook has the
>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>> - Processor: Intel? AtomTM Dual Core N2600
>>>>>>>> - Chipset: NM10 Express
>>>>>>>> - It's brand name is OLIDATA (kinda unknown world-wide, actually)
>>>>>>>> lsusb command displayed the following:
>>>>>>>> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 152d:0313 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron
>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>> Technology Corp.
>>>>>>>> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
>>>>>>>> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1bcf:0007 Sunplus Innovation Technology Inc.
>>>>>>>> Optical
>>>>>>>> Mouse
>>>>>>>> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
>>>>>>>> I also run lshw command but it dislpayed a lot of info and I really
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> know which one would be usefull for this purpose (usb, pci, isa,
>>>>>>>> ide...)
>>>>>>>> lshw information about isa bridge, ide interface and some usb
>>>>>>>> controllers
>>>>>>>> confirms some of the information of the brochure mentioned above:
>>>>>>>> usb:0
>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1
>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>> usb:1
>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2
>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>> usb:2
>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3
>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>> usb:3
>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4
>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>> usb:4
>>>>>>>> descripci?n: USB controller
>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller
>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>> isa
>>>>>>>> descripci?n: ISA bridge
>>>>>>>> producto: NM10 Family LPC Controller
>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>> ide
>>>>>>>> descripci?n: IDE interface
>>>>>>>> producto: NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode]
>>>>>>>> fabricante: Intel Corporation
>>>>>>>> I also run synclient command as Brendan suggested and got this
>>>>>>>> answer:
>>>>>>>> *Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?*
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Walter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm no expert on track pads, but whenever I've needed one to work,
>>>>>>>> or work better; I've almost always had to mess with/create an xorg.conf
>>>>>>>> file to address it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gksudo leafpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Searching the Internet for your laptop specs led me to believe it's
>>>>>>>> very similar (if not the same computer without a famous name) to an Acer
>>>>>>>> Aspire D270. So, if you find an xorg.config for that laptop, you may want
>>>>>>>> to try it and/or tweak it from someone elses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And even though the following page is intended for Gentoo Linux (so
>>>>>>>> a lot of it won't apply), it includes an xorg section that seems to address
>>>>>>>> the trackpad among other things. You may want to check it out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://dweezil.be/aod270/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>>>> God Bless You,
>>>>>>>> Computers4Christians
>>>>>>>> http://Computers4Christians.org/
>>>>>>>>
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