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Nio Wiklund
nio.wiklund at gmail.com
Sat Oct 4 05:10:13 UTC 2014
Hi Jerry,
We think that it will work to reduce the size of the Windows partition
using gparted (from a linux live system). You are already warned against
reducing the size too much. I think you should leave at least 100 GB
disk space for Windows. There are no guarantees. So you need a good and
current backup before you start.
You can clone your current hard disk drive with Windows using
*Clonezilla*
Clone it to another hard disk drive of the same size or bigger.
A good alternative is to let Clonezilla make a compressed image of your
current disk. It will use *much* less space and can be stored in an
external hard disk drive as a directory with a set of files. But in
order to restore from it you need another hard disk drive of the same
size (as your current hard disk drive with Windows) or bigger.
And a backup must be tested is order to be really reliable ...
The advantage with this method is that you restore the system to its
current state with tweaks, personal files, everything, instead of the
factory restore.
-o-
An OBI tarball can be used as backup for a linux partition. I'm not sure
that the method (suggested by Israel Dahl) would be able to restore
Windows. But I have used Clonezilla for that purpose, and I know that it
works, when used correctly.
Best regards
Nio
Den 2014-10-04 06:24, "J. Van Brimmer" skrev:
> That's what I intend to do once I get the DVDs created. I was having
> trouble with the Windows backup tool writing to my external ASUS DVD-RW
> USB drive. It seemed to write data to disc 1, and then it would tell me
> to insert another disc larger than 1GB as Disc 1 again. I'll have to
> retry that tomorrow. Not sure what's going on there. I was using 4.7GB
> DVD-R discs. I just can't express how much I dislike *dows. There were
> no messages that Disc 1 was complete, or anything similar.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com
> <mailto:israeldahl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Every so often I get a computer with windows on it, and I resize the
> windows partition for the person, so they can run their Windows only
> apps.
> I have never once had an issue. But really, most of the time, I
> only use Windows to update the BIOS.
> And then the next thing I do is install a flavour of Ubuntu.
> Usually Lubuntu, but sometimes Xubuntu.
>
> That said, I never use the Windows partitioner. I manually
> partition the system inside the LiveCD. Windows has always "worked"
> during those times. Usually, though it is better to reinstall
> Windows so you get a fresh registry. Though the newer NT based
> versions seem to handle things a bit better, they always seem to get
> slower, and full of viruses after they have been used for somewhere
> around a year.
>
> Most of the 'broken' computers I get have windows issues. I had one
> that the sound wasn't working, and the DVD drive no longer
> functioned (in windows). I simply booted a live CD (yes the drive
> did work), and voila... everything was working.
>
>
>
> On 10/03/2014 08:15 PM, "J. Van Brimmer" wrote:
>> Yeah, I understand that it's a loaded question. I was just
>> wondering if anyone here had tried it before. After I get my DVD
>> images complete and tested, I'm going to try it.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Andre Rodovalho
>> <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com <mailto:andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Nobody will answer you for sure. Even if you contact Windows
>> support... Give it a try. If you have any problems, you
>> restore that. Better now that you have nothing on your Windows
>> than later...
>>
>> PS: Windows 7 requires 20GB for 64bits architecture.
>>
>> 2014-10-03 20:26 GMT-03:00 "J. Van Brimmer"
>> <jerry.vb at gmail.com <mailto:jerry.vb at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> It has a 500Gb hard drive, but the "C" partition was only
>> about 460Gb. When I ran the Partitoner from inside
>> Windows, it would only shrink "C" down to 226Gb.
>>
>> I just now booted up a Lubuntu live 14.04 disc and ran
>> Gparted from inside Lubu. Gparted says I can shrink "C"
>> down to 36.6 Gb minimum. But, I have no problem leaving it
>> at 100 Gb. I just want to know, if I shrink it down below
>> the 226 Gb boundary set by the Windows partitioner, will
>> it clobber Windows? Will I have to factory restore the
>> system just to have a running windows?
>>
>> I am tempted to just wipe the whole disc, but I thought if
>> I can shrink "C" down to 100 Gb, I'd leave it there.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Aere Greenway
>> <Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com
>> <mailto:Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/03/2014 11:30 AM, "J. Van Brimmer" wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have just acquired a "new" refurbished Lenovo X140e
>>> netbook. tI has Windows 7 Pro on it. The first thing
>>> I did after booting it up was to go into Partition
>>> Management to shrink the C partition to make room for
>>> Lubuntu. I was shocked to discover that the partition
>>> manager would only shrink C by 50%. So, I went ahead
>>> and did that.
>>>
>>> Then, I booted up a live CD of Gparted. Gparted says
>>> I can shrink C way down a lot more. I don't remember
>>> how far it was, but it was way down, less than 100 GB.
>>>
>>> Can I safely follow Gparted's recommendation and not
>>> impact Winbroke? I am not too terribly worried about
>>> it though. I am going to create a restore image DVD,
>>> but I just thought I'd ask to see if anyone has any
>>> experience on this before I get started.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> ->Jerry<-
>>>
>>>
>> Jerry:
>>
>> I once had a Windows partition that I re-sized way
>> down to a size that seemed reasonable at the time. It
>> seemed reasonable because I only use that system for
>> testing.
>>
>> A year or so later, that system was in-trouble because
>> of insufficient space.
>>
>> The culprit? The space was used up by the multitude
>> of Windows updates.
>>
>> I had to re-size the Windows partition to a larger
>> size to rescue the system (which involved resizing and
>> even moving my Linux partitions).
>>
>> So by word of experience, in re-sizing a Windows
>> partition, be sure to leave it room to install the
>> many necessary Windows updates. On Windows 7 and
>> above, it also creates a restore-point whenever you
>> install anything, and those restore-points take up
>> disk space as well.
>>
>> I do recommend keeping your Windows partition around
>> (and usable) if you have one. Over the years, there
>> have been many cases where I was glad I saved it for
>> those occasional things that won't run on Linux, or
>> for which Linux has no practical alternative.
>>
>> Linux has been very reliable in re-sizing all of my
>> Windows partitions. In over 10 years of experience,
>> it only failed once, and in that case, there may have
>> been disk errors in the Windows partition. So make
>> sure you do a disk check of the Windows partition
>> before re-sizing it.
>>
>> Beware that on Windows 8, it may leave its partition
>> in a 'suspend' (hibernate) state, so re-sizing it
>> could give you problems.
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
>>
>>
>>
>>
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