[Lubuntu-comms] Wiki Editing / meeting

Nio Wiklund nio.wiklund at gmail.com
Sat Mar 29 14:26:35 UTC 2014


Hi Phill,

It was correct to tell me I was doing wrong, but it could have been more
diplomatic. Maybe other people were also angry, and complained to you,
and made you swing the axe ;-)

But don't worry. I will keep working with Ubuntu flavour software to
help running middle-aged and old computers. I intend to supply
information, that can be posted at the Lubuntu wiki, and I really think
it is better to only supply such information and stay away from editing
the wiki pages.

Best regards
Nio

2014-03-29 14:43, Phill Whiteside skrev:
> Hi Nio,
> 
> Sergio has been busy with real life (it happens). One of the pluss's of
> having sub-teams is that they can discuss things without people who have
> no interest being 'spammed' with heart felt discussions :) The minus
> side is that if you are not on that mailing list, you have no idea as to
> if a sub-team is actively discussing things, or not.
> 
> The last email that was sent out to general group from wiki team was for
> people to proof read the +1 pages that Sergio has prepared. Also noted
> have been  the results of things like OBI as to what resources it needs
> to install etc. 
> 
> The edits you have been made have not been deleted, they are still there
> :) I apologise as it seems my phrasing was not what it should have been.
> you are, indeed, a valued and hard working member of lubuntu. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> 
> On 29 March 2014 11:21, Ali Linx <ali.linux at amjjawad.net
> <mailto:ali.linux at amjjawad.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     On 03/29/2014 11:24 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> 
>         Hi Phill and everybody else,
> 
> 
>     Hello Nio,
> 
> 
> 
>         1. I'm very sorry to have made you upset.
> 
> 
>         2. I will not push this issue, but stay back and let other
>         people manage
>         the Lubuntu wiki pages.
> 
> 
>         3. But I want to explain why I did what I did:
> 
>         Initiated by you Phill, I checked what was minimum RAM for Trusty. I
>         sent that report to the Lubuntu community (as an email).
> 
>         There was a discussion, that focused not so much about the test
>         result,
>         but on what should be changed in the wiki page paragraph about
>         system
>         requirements.
> 
>         There was no sign of life from you Phill, or from Iberę or from
>         Sergio,
>         and the discussion ended, and I thought it meant that people
>         were happy
>         with the 'second wording'.
> 
>         So I edited that into the wiki page and made a sub-page,
>         according to
>         suggestions during the discussion.
> 
> 
>     IMHO, what you have done is not really a disaster as it has been
>     explained. The lack of communication, as always, is the major
>     serious issue that Lubuntu Community lacks and needs. I couldn't
>     tell clearly unless I joined other communities and saw by my very
>     eyes how things is happening on the other side of the world :)
> 
>     You have done a great job. Let me tell you something, you're the
>     type of contributor that Lubuntu seriously need. I do appreciate
>     each and everything you have done to Lubuntu, Ubuntu and FOSS. I
>     admire your work. Excellent job and please keep that up. This is my
>     personal opinion.
> 
>     Now, the only problem IMHO was being a bit in hurry to edit the
>     page. If Lubuntu operates in the way of Team Leaders must approve
>     before anything else then you have done everything you could. What
>     you needed to do is waiting for someone to say "Okay" or "Approved".
>     Since this community sadly lacks this approach, you wanted to be
>     extra helpful and have done everything yourself. This is what
>     happened in my eyes.
> 
>     This is what I have been doing mostly in two years with Lubuntu,
>     sometimes at least. Ironically, Phill himself was always saying :
>     "Don't ask, DO!". So, I'm not sure what is wrong?!
> 
>     You have done everything and IF and ONLY IF Wiki Pages of Lubuntu
>     must be edited by ONE and ONLY person, that is the TL of the Wiki
>     area, then maybe that is the only mistake you did by doing someone's
>     else job which is not a disaster IMHO.
> 
>     This is how I see the situation.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Once again, I'm very sorry to have made you upset and will stay away
>         from the Lubuntu wiki pages.
> 
> 
>     While I know you're so nice and friendly and I admire that, I
>     disagree with you here. I can't force you of course to help on that
>     area but I'd rather suggest to discuss with the rest of the team and
>     please, don't stay away from the Wiki pages.
> 
>     What Phill may have forgotten is: The Whole Wiki of Ubuntu and the
>     flavors need A LOT of help and love. That is a solid fact everyone
>     who is truly involved with Ubuntu and its flavors should know it. We
>     need more people to help. Editing a Wiki Page is a piece of cake.
>     Keeping that page up-to-date is a huge work that not everyone can do
>     it. You're one of those who can do that. We don't want to lose you.
>     Please!
> 
> 
>         Best regards
>         Nio
> 
> 
>     Thank you!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         2014-03-29 03:09, Phill Whiteside skrev:
> 
>             Hi folks,
> 
>             it seams to have missed people's minds that anything other a
>             correction
>             of syntax or a link that has expired has to be checked with
>             the TL for
>             the wiki area.
> 
>             There are test areas about and our current guy has spent
>             hours prepping
>             up for 14.04.
> 
>             To clear things, he will be attending #lubuntu-offtopic as
>             part of a
>             meeting that will be registered and logged. At that point
>             you can ask
>             him about the work that is being done by that team to have
>             all the wiki
>             ready for 14.04.
> 
>             This may be a useful session for people who have been making
>             a mess of
>             the wiki 13.10 instead of the 14.04 pages to attend.
> 
>             There is a very good reason we have a TL for wiki... Major
>             changes go
>             through that person and when in doubt that person can check
>             with our
>             head of dev.
> 
>             14:00 UTC 30th March on #lubuntu-offtopic
> 
>             I expect all of you who have discussing lay out etc. to attend.
> 
>             Regards,
> 
>             personal secretary to Sergio,
> 
>             Phill.
> 
> 
> 
>             -- 
>             https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
> 
> 
> 
> 
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