autostart bug

Wed Jul 23 13:51:01 UTC 2014

I always do as Nio said, a */home* separated partition, then you can make
as many installations you want on your *root* partition without loosing
anything important. User configurations will be stored on */home*.

On this case (fresh install to* /*), you need to reinstall aditional
software. But that is quite small compared to a full installation upgrade.

To separate */home* from */* on installation, you need to use the "manual
option". I guess there is tons of tutorials about this on the net...

2014-07-23 8:24 GMT-03:00 Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>:

> Hi Basil,
> [I will reply inline]
> Best regards/Nio
>
> Den 2014-07-23 13:08, Basil Fernie skrev:
> > Hi Nio,
> >
> > Thanks for the prompt response. I checked out the linked threads and my
> > conclusion is that most of the advice offered actually addresses the
> > converse of my problem. There are solutions to the question "How do I
> > introduce a new application package offline to an existing installed
> > distro. I read them with interest, this is also a problem I sometimes
> > face, but what is really on my mind is this:
> >
> > How do I overwrite an existing full working installation's system files,
> > including the Linux kernel, with an upgrade to a more recent version
> > (from 12.04 to 14.04 in this instance)? Specifically, I have the
> > entirety of the new version as released in an iso on a bootable DVD
> > already; I have run that iso live from the DVD and am satisfied that
> > it's fine, apart perhaps for a few regular-type dsriable updates which I
> > will anyway do via Lubuntu's Update Manager in due course.
>
> I see.
>
> > What I would love to be able to do is boot from the new DVD and invoke
> > the live installer, selecting then the (currently non-existent) option
> > to overwrite the existing system including kernel, system executables,
> > scripts, configuration files, and distro-standard included application
> > packages that are more recent than ones I have already installed over
> > the older distro, without being forced to reformat the entire Lubuntu
> > partition, thereby losing all my painfully selected, downloaded and
> > installed additional application packages not to mention the gigabytes
> > of user data.
>
> The standard method to upgrade from one LTS to the next one is to wait
> until the first point release. At the same time there will be an
> upgrader that is even annonced by the 'daily updater'. It will actually run
>
> do-release-upgrade
>
> under the hood. It requires connection via internet for downloading a
> lot of packages, so not an option for you unless you move your computer
> or at least your hard disk drive or a cloned copy of it.
>
> > To preserve these important to me things I am currently forced to backup
> > everything that I think will be endangered, do a clean install of the
> > new Lubuntu, then restore everything from backup, in the process
> > probably overwriting some important new files that were installed with
> > the new version of the distro. A job stretching over probably 2 or 3
> > days initially, followed unpleasant random discoveries at various
> > (critical?) points.
>
> You should always backup everything important before risky operations,
> so this is not an 'additional task' in your particular situation.
>
> Many people prefer to have a separate home partition and to make fresh
> installations (without wiping the home partition) and keep the personal
> tweaks. Then you have to add the extra PPAs and  program packages, but
> it is usually much easier than what you describe.
>
> > The only remotely relevant suggestion I could find would mean doing a
> > clean  live install of e.g. Lubuntu 14.o4 on another machine booted from
> > the new DVD, then copy them into the named special directory on my
> > operational laptop's operational partition, then do a "no-download"
> > installation from that directory. I expect that will avoid the feared
> > non-optional reformatting requirement of the target partition, since the
> > named directory is on that partition?
> >
> > The obvious potential problem here is that the interim machine on which
> > the clean install is done, may have subtle differences at the hardware
> > or BIOS level and thus force a clean installation that might be somewhat
> > inappropriate for the eventual operational machine.
> >
> > Variations on this theme which might be better would include setting
> > aside a bootable partition on the operational target machine for the
> > interim clean install, then doing the copy at HDU speeds into the named
> > directory in the target operational partition, alternatively (and better
> > for propagation across a small family of computers needing the same
> > upgrade) doing the interim clean installation onto a bootable memory
> > stick mounted in the operational target machine, then copying back as
> > before.
>
> You can use the OEM feature according to this link
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
>
> > Any comments?
> >
> > Best regards to all,
> >
> > Basil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:09:08 +0200, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Basil,
> >>
> >> Maybe these links to the Ubuntu Forum will help you with a method for
> >> offline package installation
> >>
> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2234724
> >>
> >>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2234850&p=13076109#post13076109
> >>
> >> So basically,
> >>
> >> *Carry the program packages*
> >>
> >> - go to a computer with fast and cheap internet connection and download
> >> the packages you want,
> >>
> >> - carry them to your own computer and
> >>
> >> - copy them into the correct place
> >>
> >> - install the package you want with the option --no-download
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Nio
> >>
> >> 2014-07-23 08:51, Basil Fernie skrev:
> >>> OK, now to reveal the depths of my ignorance...
> >>>
> >>> I am at last ready to update my own Lenovo's Lubuntu 12.04 LTS as
> >>> numerously updated (now at .67 or .68, I think) to 14.04 with the
> >>> initial deal-inhibitors sorted. I have a bootable DVD with the 14.04
> iso
> >>> which performs adequately in live test mode and want to do the
> >>> update/upgrade from the DVD, being in the unhappy position of having to
> >>> pay for every byte that is downloaded. (And I don't have a hardwired
> >>> internet connection).
> >>> ...
> >
> >
>
>
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