Bento Village iso file with new non-pae kernel by Phill

[Nio Wiklund]

Hi again,

sudo dhclient eth2

works in one computer and it is persistent (in the persistent live
pendrive). Maybe it needs to be redirected (ethX) in another computer, I
have not checked that.

Best regards/Nio


2014-07-06 11:31, Nio Wiklund skrev:
> Hi Mélodie,
> [see inline]
> Best regards/Nio
> 
> 2014-07-06 10:57, meets at gmx.fr skrev:
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 01:25:10 +0200
>> Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> I got curious and started testing. Bento Trusty NON PAE
>>>
>>> 1. runs live and can install into VirtualBox (without pae flag). The
>>> screen size is limited to 640x480 unless I activate
>>>
>>> GRUB_TERMINAL=console
>>>
>>> in /etc/default/grub and run
>>>
>>> sudo update-grub.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I didn't know about this Grub setup, and this is good to know. And about the ISO's, I
>> used to add the packages for virtual hosts (which allow having the same resolution as
>> the host provides) and lately I didn't anymore. I guess I should add them again for the
>> test ISO's to come.
> 
> That's a good idea.
> 
>>> I have only tested basic things, and they work. But
>>> wired network does not work. I can ping but web addresses cannot be
>>> resolved. Is this the known bug and is it independent of the non-pae
>>> kernel? I do not see this bug in Lubuntu 14.04 LTS with the non-pae
>>> kernel as installed via the OBI-9w.
>>
>> I don't think that this is dependent on the kernel, but rather to the latest versions of
>> network-manager and or network-manager-gnome in Trusty. I hit with the bug in a Bento
>> Trusty installed from mini.iso (the official netinstall method), and I found that other
>> people hit this bug in official community supported versions of 14.04 when they are
>> updated:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1301158
>>
>> If the bug does not exist in Lubuntu 14.04, that would be very good : is that still ok
>> after it is fully updated and rebooted?
> 
> Yes, as far as I understand, I should have noticed the problem otherwise
> yesterday, when I ran two different instances of Lubuntu 14.04, one with
> the non-pae kernel, one 64-bit system.
> 
>> In my computer/Bento Trusty install, I have switched to wicd/wicd-daemon/wicd-gtk
>> yesterday, and it all works fine since. I have used a few hours testing and rebooting,
>> each time the wired network was working after boot, but the nm-applet icon was not there
>> (ghost) and the information menu from where it lives would say that it was not started.
>> (See here: http://meets.free.fr/images/nm-applet_and_network-manager.png )
>>
>> I am waiting for the next comments or demands for log files on that bug report thread.
>>
>> If you still have your installs of Bento Trusty, you can do the wired connection easily
>> with "sudo dhclient ethX" where X would be 0 or 1 depending on your configuration. In
>> Virtualbox it should need to be setup as bridge and not NAT. From there, you could
>> install the wicd packages and see if that solves the issue. If it does, you can be sure
>> the non pae kernel is not faulty. 
> 
> I must admit, that I am not very good at tweaking networks. I'll try
> 
> sudo dhclient ethX
> 
> where X would be 0 or 1 ...
> 
> I have a bad experience from wicd in the pre-alpha versions of ToriOS.
> Maybe because I don't understand it, but I could never make it work
> properly, while Network manager 'always works' after my tweaks according
> to this link
> 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Unmanaged_Wired_Network
> 
>>> 2. runs live and can install into an IBM Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M,
>>> that lacks PAE flag, but has PAE capability. But it would be better to
>>> find a machine that truly lacks PAE capability.
>>
>> I don't have any. Do such machines still really exist out there?
> 
> Yes, but not very easy to find. See this link
> 
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2216356&page=4&p=13050755#post13050755
> 
>>> I have only tested basic things, and they work except wired network,
>>> which has the same problem with wired network as in VBox.
>>
>> You do have the connection working with wireless, right? This is what I hit with my
>> install when using the network-manager tools.
> 
> No, I don't think so, but I did not really try. I focused on wired
> internet, which 'should' work out of the box.
> 
>>> 3. manages persistence, tested with Unetbootin and a casper-rw
>>> partition. I used a temporary boot option entered after hitting TAB to
>>> edit the line with boot options. Tested in an IBM Thinkpad T42 with
>>> Pentium M, and in a Toshiba Satellite Pro with Intel i5.
>>
>> This is very good. I wonder if the USB Creator tool works in Trusty? (usb-creator-gtk). In
>> Precise it works fine as long as the USB stick has been formatted to Fat32 by Gparted
>> prior and not with the tool itself.
>>
>> I haven't tested it yet.
> 
> Try it and report your result :-)
> 
>>> -o-
>>>
>>> Congratulations to both of you Mélodie and Phill :-)
>>
>> Thanks Nio!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Mélodie
>>
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