[Lubuntu-qa] Back on 13.10 release - Lxsession Edit

Israel israeldahl at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 20:28:49 UTC 2013

On 11/21/2013 02:04 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
> 2013/11/21 JM <meets at gmx.fr <mailto:meets at gmx.fr>>
>     On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 13:34:00 -0200
>     Iberê Fernandes <ibere.fernandes at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ibere.fernandes at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > Mélodie,
>     >
>     > Regarding lxsession edit, I agree with you: I'm still fighting to
>     > understand it. (I'm a Lubuntu user since 11.10)
>     >
>     > However, some other folks seems to have got how it works:
>     >
>     http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com.br/2013/10/lubuntu-1310-saucy-salamander-review.html
>     >
>     > "Though Lubuntu is yet to get an LXDE control center like PCLinuxOS
>     > LXDE or ROSA and the settings items are scattered through Menu ->
>     > Preferences. Another interesting addition I saw is the Default
>     > applications for LXSession entry in Preferences. Earlier adding any
>     > program to autostart in LXDE would mean hitting the terminal.
>     But, now
>     > with this option, adding programs to autostart (from Running or
>     > Launching applications and/or directly adding an entry to autostart)
>     > has become a lot easier. Further, settings give options of changing
>     > default DE, adding Gnome Dbus and/or setting up Lubuntu in laptop
>     > mode. I like Lubuntu more than any of the previous versions that I
>     > have used."
>     >
>     > Well, that's the blogger opinion... not mine though.
>     >
>     > Just wanted to share a different point of view.
>     Hello,
>     An opinion which is nice to read at but which unfortunately
>     doesn't bring the first clue
>     about what in that bench of buttons does what. :?
>     https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DI5LLU4D2Go/UmJo43HBJaI/AAAAAAAAIsw/tCuJsz9jCGc/s912/lxsession-default-apps_029.png
> Well, I'm completely agree with the actual design of
> lxsession-default-app, for now is more a debug tool, that a real user
> tool. One of my goal for this cycle is to make it better. I worked
> more on the backend than on the UI last cycle. Again (I probably said
> it a couple of times already), any UI input are welcomed.
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
UI input:

Tooltips, and some sort of "help" would be extremely useful!  There were
a few options that seemed unclear.  Some of the options are vague. (this
is the most needed area).

Using icons to show what each option means would be very helpful as a
visual reference

And to be candid, the UI is not extremely pretty.  There is no way to
save or import a preconfigured set of apps/ actions.

It is also completely unclear where these settings are saved.  They are
not in ~/.config/autostart (which is where I used to put xcompmgr, and
thunar-volman, for DVD playback)

Are you making the frontend in Qt (for future LXQt)?  The Ubuntu SDK is
very easy to make front ends, and you can use a lot of premade buttons,
and other things to make it look nice.  It might be worth considering
using the SDK to develop some of the configuration tools.
QProgram (if I remember... not much of a Qt person, yet) can even launch
external programs.  This could make a full System Settings/Control Panel
type program.  If you don't like this idea, please help me understand
the short comings, I am not extremely familiar with the Qt framework, or
if these SDK apps would work for the desktop or not.


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