Lubuntu Communications: Social Media Cleaning Project

Tue Nov 12 23:24:50 UTC 2013

2013/11/12 Andre Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
> I think the Youtube Channel is very interesting... People today are lazy
> about reading, but most teenagers likes videos. Maybe the best thing to do
> is to fuse Lubuntu Screencasts made by Leszek on this Lubuntu101...
>
> Screenscasts by Leszek are pretty old, but indeed, many things on them are
> still usefull. So, I guess keeping always the lubuntu version on the video
> title is enough for people to know that: this might not be applicable to
> another version, but it could be...
>
>
> 2013/11/12 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Iberê Fernandes
>> <ibere.fernandes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>
>> Hi :)
>>
>>>
>>> I'm Iberê, I'm your new social media admin.
>>
>>
>> And don't forget you are leading Lubuntu Communications starting today ;)
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once Linux is about meritocracy, I'm proud to thank you for having me
>>> as your social media admin.
>>
>>
>> You deserve it :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Besides meritocracy, it's also important to share experience and why I
>>> think I can help Lubuntu at social media.
>>>
>>> I have an experience of almost 10 years as a former Web Surfer,
>>> Product Manager, Project Manager and Community Manager (may vary
>>> according to my career evolution) of products such as Yahoo!
>>> Directory, Yahoo! Search, Flickr, Yahoo! Answers, Yahoo! Groups,
>>> Yahoo! Mail, GeoCities, Yahoo! Bookmarks, Delicious, Yahoo! Profiles,
>>> Yahoo! Videos and some others I don't remember now. :-) My main
>>> expertise are to deal with i18n, l10n, testing/QA, and product
>>> analysis.
>>
>>
>> That is why you can help the community and that is why Lubuntu needs
>> people like you :)
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now to the social media cleaning project.
>>>
>>> In a simple image:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ibere-Fernandes/lubuntusocialmediacleaning
>>>
>>> Once we have too many official social media channels (12 if I did not
>>> miss any) and so few headcount to admin those channels, I propose to
>>> *focus* on the main project: Lubuntu, official lightweight Ubuntu
>>> flavor. Let's test it and guarantee that 14.04 is our first rock solid
>>> LTS.
>>
>>
>> +1
>> I have been thinking a lot about this recently and I am very glad you have
>> taken the initiative and sent this email :)
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> @Ali, please, tell us if I miss any Lubuntu official social media
>>> channels.
>>
>>
>> These are the 'official' channels for Lubuntu:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
>>
>> WOWLubuntu, although it is a Community Project, it has never been used and
>> despite many who showed their interest about it, NO ONE has done anything
>> yet so it is totally safe to keep it a side for the time being.
>>
>>
>>
>>> And now how to promote Lubuntu and keep focus on fewer channels. (or
>>> the not so simple version)
>>>
>>> Yes, it's important to keep Lubuntu on social media, but it's even
>>> more important to keep our social media channels updated and relevant
>>> to Lubuntu.
>>
>>
>> NO doubt about that = +1
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Why Lubuntu needs social media?
>>> Official announcements, showcase, publish how-tos, tricks/tips,
>>> recruitment of testers and anyone who might want to help build
>>> Lubuntu. Social media channels are the places where Lubuntu Team
>>> shares its identity and develop relationship with Lubuntu users.
>>> Sharing, making conversations, help to find the appropriate support
>>> channels (wikis, forums, irc channel).
>>
>>
>> No doubt :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are the the top social media channels according to google search?
>>> https://www.google.com.br/search?q=popular+social+media
>>>
>>> a) http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/social-networking-websites
>>>
>>> b)
>>> http://webtrends.about.com/od/socialnetworkingreviews/tp/Social-Networking-Sites.htm
>>> : be careful once it's from 2012
>>>
>>> c)
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2475591/Twitter-overtakes-Facebook-popular-social-network-teens-according-study.html
>>>
>>
>> Let's KISS (Keep It Simple and Short), my friend :)
>>
>> While it is always good to do such kind of research and digging, we need
>> to save time and resource and simply have a look at the current channels
>> that we have. Based on two important factors, we can easily decide where to
>> focus:
>>
>> 1- Number of Subscribers/Followers to that specific Channel
>> 2- Traffic and User Interactions
>>
>> The more the above factors have, the better we focus on.
>>
>> End of story :D
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From the above, what are the relevant social media channels to
>>> Lubuntu? By relevant I mean: what are the channels worth to promote
>>> Lubuntu and get more users downloading and using Lubuntu as a Windows
>>> alternative. Keep in mind these questions when reading the rest of
>>> this e-mail.
>>>
>>> From my view, Facebook, Google Plus, maybe Twitter.
>>
>>
>> +1
>> I share the same opinion with you. These are the main without a question
>> :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are teenagers relevant to Lubuntu? Yes.
>>>
>>> Are they prone to run old computers? No, they're the "touch generation".
>>
>>
>> Well, you never know. Some teenagers are interested, why not? :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Should we open more social media channels such as LinkedIn, MySpace,
>>> Pinterest, Instagram? I do not think so. If you think so, share with
>>> us and let us know who will admin the proposed channels, what's the
>>> strategy for the new channels.
>>
>>
>> HUGE NO for this. We don't have enough energy + resources + time for that.
>>
>>
>>> So if Lubuntu Team is thinking about opening new official social media
>>> channels, please, before opening new channels, let's discuss:
>>>
>>> I) who'll manage the channel;
>>>
>>> II) would the proposed content fit in an existing channel?
>>>
>>> III) is the new social media channel relevant on the Internet to
>>> attract new users to Lubuntu as a Windows alternative?
>>>
>>> IV) is the new social media channel relevant to recruit Lubuntu team
>>> members/supporters?
>>
>>
>> See my previous thought about that :)
>> Again, please NO :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Should we kill some of the official social channels? (full list in the
>>> next topic)
>>> From my view, let's kill the following (or not keep as official
>>> channels  if the ones running a given channel decides to keep running
>>> it):
>>
>>
>> NO. DO NOT KILL anything. Just ignore these channels until we release
>> 14.04 and after that, we can discuss. These channels can remain inactive for
>> 6 months. Who knows? maybe during this cycle we will find interested people
>> who can look after these? so please, DO NOT kill whatever we have right now,
>> this is not good idea at all. Instead, just keep them a side, that is all.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5) https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial : 558 followers. 58 tweets. We
>>> have control on that channel.  Besides, the channel has not been
>>> active.
>>
>>
>> While that account has NOT been active, just for everyone information,
>> Twitter can spread the word much faster and better than any other Social
>> Network. Due to the nature of Twitter Platform, you don't have to follow
>> Lubuntu to see Lubuntu Tweets. Those who have Twitter account will
>> understand that. So, please, KEEP this one.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6) http://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/ : 379 readers. Should stay as
>>> personal project, not official.
>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore this and keep it a side.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 7) http://www.youtube.com/user/Lubuntu101: 106 subscriptions. We have
>>> control on that channel. Should stay as personal project, not
>>> official. Or kill it.
>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore it and keep it a side.
>> For two years, I have been looking for someone who create YouTube videos
>> but no one stepped in so I guess it is safe to ignore it and keep it a side
>> until someone steps in.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 10) https://www.facebook.com/WOWLubuntu: 999 likes. Not an active
>>> sub-project.
>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore it and keep it a side for now.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 11) https://plus.google.com/100534526082640317485/posts : 239
>>> followers. Not an active sub-project.
>>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore it and keep it a side for now.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 12) http://wowlubuntu.blogspot.com.br/ : Not an active sub-project.
>>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore it and keep it a side for now.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The full list of Official Lubuntu Communications channels:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/eveContactUs#Find_Lubuntu
>>
>>
>> FOCUS on:
>>
>> Lubuntu Facebook Page (NOT group)
>> Lubuntu Google+ Page (NOT Community)
>> Lubuntu on Twitter (the one we have control over)
>>
>> These are the TOP 3 channels that WE should focus on :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) http://lubuntu.net/ : we do not know who's in charge of that blog.
>>> Ali's trying to communicate with the owner. Seems to be relevant
>>> according to google search and distrowatch:
>>> https://www.google.com.br/search?q=lubuntu
>>>
>>> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lubuntu
>>
>>
>>
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website
>>
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-blog
>>
>> I vote to use the Blog and ignore the website as long as the owner refuses
>> to hand over the access to the team. And if there is someone else who has
>> access, he/she is refusing to speak up and refusing to reply our emails. We
>> are wasting our time with the website.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com.br/ : Rafael Laguna (Lubuntu
>>> artwork Team Leader) personal blog. Will it become and official
>>> channel or keep as a personal blog? @Rafael, please, we need your
>>> input.
>>
>>
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-blog
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3) https://www.facebook.com/Lubuntu.Official.Page : 82681 Facebook
>>> users like this. We have control on that channel.  Keep this channel.
>>> Lots of likes/followers. Work as official announcements.
>>
>>
>> +1
>> Definitely Keep it and Focus on this.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4)
>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106362800741775815583/106362800741775815583/posts
>>> : 3795 G+ users are following that page. We have control on that
>>> channel. Work as official announcements.
>>
>>
>> +1
>> Definitely Keep it and Focus on this.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5) https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial : 558 followers. 58 tweets. We
>>> have control on that channel.
>>
>>
>> As I stated earlier: + 1 Keep it and focus on this.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6) http://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/ : 379 readers.
>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore it and keep it a side for now.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 7) http://www.youtube.com/user/Lubuntu101: 106 subscriptions. We have
>>> control on that channel.
>>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore it and Keep it a side for now.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There're more:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs#See_Also
>>>
>>> 8) https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/ : Official group
>>> at Facebook. 800 members. Keep this channel. Lots of likes/followers.
>>> Used for showcase, Lubuntu tips/tricks, redirect users to the correct
>>> support channels.
>>
>>
>> 0
>>
>> I personally see no point to waste time on this but that is my opinion. I
>> saw to keep it but don't focus on it and find someone who can look after it.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 9) https://plus.google.com/communities/102737741860934586009 : 572
>>> members. The same use as #7.
>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore it and keep it a side for now.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And there're even more:
>>>
>>> 10) https://www.facebook.com/WOWLubuntu: 999 likes. Sub-project of
>>> Lubuntu Communications.
>>>
>>> 11) https://plus.google.com/100534526082640317485/posts : 239
>>> followers. Sub-project of Lubuntu Communications.
>>>
>>> 12) http://wowlubuntu.blogspot.com.br/ : not an active channel.
>>> Sub-project of Lubuntu Communications.
>>
>>
>> -1
>> Ignore WOWLubuntu unless someone so serious steps in.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> @David Yentzen <dbyentzen at gmail.com> wants to take care of that
>>> channel since november 2nd. However nothing has changed on the blog.
>>> @David, we need your confirmation, otherwise, closing channel.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 13) http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lubuntu+screencast :
>>> Leslek personal screencasts on Lubuntu. Although it's kind of old,
>>> there're still some good info on those screencasts. Check the views of
>>> each of them. Should stay as personal project unless Leslek would like
>>> to become our official You Tube channel.
>>> @Leslek, we need your input.
>>
>>
>> Not sure what is the point behind that but I'd say keep everything as it
>> is for now. I don't think there is time to do much on that.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once this e-mail is too long, I think 10 days (november 22nd) are ok
>>> until everybody insterested replies.
>>
>>
>> Speaking from two long years of Lubuntu Communicaitons Lead and Currently
>> Ubuntu GNOME Communications Lead + Peppermint Community Manager + Ubuntu
>> Quality Social Media Administrator ... I would advise to:
>>
>> Keep the channels that has the most traffic + the most subscribers, one
>> channel per platform (Facebook, Goolge+ and Twitter)
>> Ignore all the other until we find someone to manage these. We can keep
>> them a side for 6 months (this cycle) and after 14.04, we can do
>> re-assessment and discuss this yet again after 6 months.
>> Keep in mind before taking any decision that we are fighting against TIME
>> and we have no time, not enough manpower and not much of resources (humans
>> and non-humans). The activities of the whole community has dropped down big
>> time compared to other releases and key players/active contributors have
>> quit. Yes, me included. I am around just to help not to lead :)
>> KISS (Keep It Simple and Short) - this is Lubuntu Philosophy.
>> While this may sound totally off-topic but I think it is relevant. Lubuntu
>> Wiki Area need MORE love than Lubuntu Social Channels. I am much worried
>> about that more than the Social Media. I do trust Sergio and I acknowledge
>> his skills but alone? he will be burned out because he is doing everything
>> all by himself. Beside me helping him and I guess Phill is helping as well,
>> I am not aware of who else is helping him?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Best Regards,
>> amjjawad
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>

I'd like to thank all of you for all the suggestions and feedack so far.

Once November 22nd is the deadline I proposed, I'm looking to having
more replies, more suggestions, and more contributions.

I'll also post something on our social media channels with a different
approach (tks for your suggestions @Ali).

Best regards,

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