Some Lubuntu feedback

Thu Jun 27 13:44:06 UTC 2013

I guess the next image viewer is gonna be Viewnior:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608748


2013/6/27 Andre Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>

> I will give my opinion about some:
>
>
> 3. In a fresh install, when you put a DVD in, nothing happens - no media
> player. When you open GNOME Mplayer, and ask it to play a DVD, it moans
> about finding nothing at /dev/dvd/ (probably because the system has mounted
> the DVD under /media).
>
> I then installed VLC media player, now when I put in a DVD, it offers me
> VLC which then plays the DVD without complaining about mount points. So not
> now a problem for me since I prefer VLC anyway but you might need to look
> at the configuration a bit. If it can all work with VLC then surely it can
> with GNOME Mplayer?
>
> > You can also give a try on SMplayer...
>
> 4. When you lock the screen or suspend, you get XScreenSaver, which does
> not fit with the look and feel of Lubuntu at all. Can this be skinned in
> the same theme as Lubuntu?
>
> > XScreenSaver is gonna be replaced by an "LX app" on next releases...
>
> 5. The monitor settings tool lxrandr is rather limited, there is no way
> through the GUI to configure more than one monitor or an external
> projector. I installed arandr which solved that problem - perhaps arandr
> should be part of the default install?
>
> > I use external projector frequently, the option of activating and
> deactivating the VGA output on notebooks is released when you have the
> equipment linked to it. It's quite simple options, resolution and
> frequency. There's no config. but clone the view, but works!
>
> ... about the imagem programs, they might also be changed in a near
> future. For editing, I guess you might also want to give a try on fotoxx
> 13.06 (there is an onlder version on repos) and pinta.
>
> Comparing to MS softwares, Abiword is compared to MSWord, and leafpad
> compared to notepad.
>
>
> 2013/6/27 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>
>
>>  Hello,
>>
>> I installed Lubuntu on some old computers and liked it so much I am using
>> now on all my family’s computers, including brand new ones.
>>
>> Even on a new computer, I want my computer’s resources (and electricity)
>> to be used on the programs I am actually using, rather than the GUI Shell
>> which I only see 5% of the time or less.
>>
>> I do not want to be another clichéd Unity hater and understand that
>> Canonical needs to compete with Mac OS X and Windows 8 to reach the mass
>> market, but personally I prefer the lightweight feel of Lubuntu and prefer
>> the LXPanel menu over the Unity Launcher which always seems to be in my way.
>>
>> I am also a parent and Lubuntu is easier to lock down for child use
>> (there is less to remove to start with), and children seem to get quite
>> confused by the Unity Dash overlaying the screen (and the automatic
>> shopping results are not appropriate for children).
>>
>> So I am a big fan of Lubuntu, and thought I should share some small
>> criticisms in case it is helpful for the developers to get feedback.
>>
>> 1. When you first install Lubuntu, you are presented with just blue
>> background. You might want to consider some kind of welcome app? Or open
>> the browser at a welcome HTML page? Indeed there is not a lot of inline
>> help in general.
>>
>> 2. When you right click on the empty desktop, you get a second
>> interpretation of the main menu which is a bit redundant and confusing. I
>> was expecting a menu with options such as "change wallpaper" and "open
>> desktop in file manager" etc.
>>
>> 3. In a fresh install, when you put a DVD in, nothing happens - no media
>> player. When you open GNOME Mplayer, and ask it to play a DVD, it moans
>> about finding nothing at /dev/dvd/ (probably because the system has mounted
>> the DVD under /media).
>>
>> I then installed VLC media player, now when I put in a DVD, it offers me
>> VLC which then plays the DVD without complaining about mount points. So not
>> now a problem for me since I prefer VLC anyway but you might need to look
>> at the configuration a bit. If it can all work with VLC then surely it can
>> with GNOME Mplayer?
>>
>> 4. When you lock the screen or suspend, you get XScreenSaver, which does
>> not fit with the look and feel of Lubuntu at all. Can this be skinned in
>> the same theme as Lubuntu?
>>
>> 5. The monitor settings tool lxrandr is rather limited, there is no way
>> through the GUI to configure more than one monitor or an external
>> projector. I installed arandr which solved that problem - perhaps arandr
>> should be part of the default install?
>>
>> 6. The settings in general are quite a mess, and the default install of
>> Lubuntu gives you duplicate menu entries for “Online Accounts” whatever
>> that is (I have installed 13.04 on several machines and you always get two).
>>
>> 7. ”System Tools” then “System Profiler and Benchmark” (hardinfo) doesn’t
>> fully work. I have tried it on several computers and always the same
>> results, you get a succession of three frozen pop up windows, which if you
>> close the main window then eventually renders, some choices in the GUI will
>> result in more of these frozen windows. Are you missing some dependencies?
>>
>> 8. I am not sure about the choice of Times New Roman as the default font
>> but in general Abiword is fantastic. However, I do not like how the Lubuntu
>> file manager is configured to interact with Abiword.
>>
>> I opened Abiword, then I typed a document, then I clicked on File then
>> Save, then I typed in a filename, then I pressed the Save button. Instead
>> of saving the file I get a big red exclamation mark telling me to “Please
>> select a folder below”.
>>
>> Having a 'Recently Used' tab is useful, having it as the default is the
>> most annoying thing ever, especially when I have just installed the system
>> and have not recently used anything. What is the point of the Windows-style
>> default 'Documents' folder if it is not the default location for saving
>> Documents?
>>
>> 9. Gnumeric is also a nice program, and when you press Save without
>> specifying a directory, it fortunately does not default to ‘Recently Used’
>> but just saves in the user’s top level home directory, slightly less
>> annoying but why doesn’t it default to Documents?
>>
>> 10. The Image viewer is not under Graphics which confused one of my
>> family who was looking for a way to open an image. Also this program allows
>> you to rotate or flip an image and then save that change, but does not
>> allow you to crop the image.
>>
>> It seems to be that the only way to crop an image on the Lubuntu default
>> install is to use mtpaint. This is a slightly weird program and I am not
>> sure who it is really aimed at. mtpaint is friendly for casual users who
>> want to crop their photos but conversely it is not going to be used by any
>> graphic artist. I would suggest something like Shotwell would be more
>> useful in the default install.
>>
>> 11. I am not really sure who Leafpad is aimed at. Non-technical users
>> will use Abiword to type text while technical users will just install their
>> favourite editor to get syntax highlighting etc.
>>
>> 12. Again I am not sure who Audacious is aimed at here, causal users will
>> just open media files with the video player (GNOME Mplayer by default),
>> people really into their digital music collection will probably have strong
>> views and will install their own choice of music player.
>>
>> 13. I mainly just used Firefox before I started using Lubuntu, one thing
>> that is nice about Chromium is that on old hardware, when a site causes the
>> browser to go slow, you can kill that one tab and things go back to normal,
>> whereas on Firefox you need to kill the whole browser. Maybe my experience
>> is atypical since I see from the other mailing list posts that Lubuntu has
>> decided to move to Firefox. Not a big issue for me as I will install both
>> anyway.
>>
>> 14. Transmission is nice but is only associated with traditional torrent
>> files, if you go to a magnet link, e.g. this one:
>> http://magnet-uri.sourceforge.net/magnet-uri-example-no-js.html ) it
>> does not open transmission until you configure it:
>> http://askubuntu.com/a/133693 this could have been done by default.
>>
>> 15. I have not really used Sylpheed in anger yet but so far it seems
>> nice. Pidgin is good, I actually prefer it over Empathy.
>>
>> 16. Bundled games are not important, but if you are going to bundle
>> games, they seem a bit over-focused on card games, what about, say, one of
>> the chess games in the repositories or something?
>>
>> 17. Sadly there is no presentation program by default. Does Lubuntu/LXDE
>> already have plans in that direction?
>>
>> [I have had a bit of a play at hacking on GNOME Ease, which is a nice
>> simple presentation program (it is a small wrapper around Clutter which
>> does all the work). GNOME Ease looks very pretty but requires older
>> versions of the dependencies than are currently in Lubuntu/Ubuntu. I
>> started to play with getting Ease to work with the current available
>> dependencies but I’m wondering if it would be better to start from scratch
>> in QT if that is the way the LXDE wind is blowing?]
>>
>> 18. Perhaps not the usual target machine for Lubuntu, but on a Retina
>> display Macbook Pro in its full resolution, Lubuntu/LXDE looks a bit
>> insane. You can increase the font sizes to readable size (e.g. 20px) but a
>> lot of other things such as the taskbar and program menubars cannot be
>> appropriately re-sized and just look very small indeed.
>>
>> Anyway, thanks to the Lubuntu and LXDE developers for such a nice
>> operating system, keep up the good work!
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Zeth
>>
>>
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