[Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Nio,

if you're currently 'playing' with mini iso and usb, can you check out
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall I've
not updated details on usb sticks and mini-iso, nor the network manager
stuff for a couple of cycles now.

Thanks,

Phill.

On 20 June 2013 19:49, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> On 2013-06-20 19:56, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> >
> >>>> - Would it be possible to add the Ubiquity command to the Openbox
> >>>>   right-click menu? ...
> >
> >>> If you are techie enough to play around like that, you are probably
> >>> techie enough to remember a command :)
> >
> >> I was thinking, that people could be adviced to use that method: To
> >> log into the ultra-light Openbox session, and the more that is
> >> built into the system, the less must be described in the tutorial
> >> or wiki page.
> >
> >> ... because this way it is possible to edit or wipe partitions and
> >> 'swapon' before ubiquity is started, which helps when there is very
> >> low RAM.
> >
> > I'm currently thinking and hoping the official docs can basically say
> > there are exactly three recommended Lubuntu installation methods:
> >
> >  (1) 384MB and up: use the desktop CD, select "Install Lubuntu"
> >      from the menu
> >
> > (2) 256MB to 384MB: use the alternate CD
> >
> > (3) 128MB to 256MB: Use the netboot mini.iso and select Lubuntu desktop
> >     at the software selection screen
> >
> > The appropriate RAM size numbers for each one are what we want to find
> > out.
> >
> > What we *don't* want is to have 8 different methods, several of them
> > long and complex and not suitable for newcomers.  That just makes
> > Lubuntu look "hard" and "for techies only".  All those other "clever"
> > methods can be documented somewhere on a wiki page, as things that are
> > unsupported but might work, for people who know what  they are doing and
> > have less than 256MB.
> >
> > The same goes for workarounds for unsupported video chipsets, etc... we
> > document them, but on the wiki only and not in the main documentation
> > path we expect newcomers to use.  So that people who don't need those
> > details don't have to read them anyway and be put off Lubuntu by them.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> @ Jonathan,
>
> As usual, you have wise comments.
>
> We must keep separate
>
> 1. general and simple stuff for general users (including newcomers)
>
> 2. advanced stuff for special cases and/or interested or skilled people.
>
> I will not argue against that. I totally agree. What we disagree(d)
> about is if we can include stuff for item 2 into the program code, as
> the example to 'add the Ubiquity command to the Openbox right-click
> menu'. But I start to understand that there might low priority for such
> luxury because the programming resources are scarce, while we are many
> who can write wiki pages.
>
> @ everybody,
>
> By the way, I edited the page about mini.iso
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
>
> to indicate that it can be used from USB now (which is good for netbook
> users and for people with bad CD/DVD drives).
>
> And I noticed that the network installation by the mini iso is not
> portable like the one by the desktop iso.
>
> -o-
>
> A. If we plan to write '(3) 128MB to 256MB: Use the netboot mini.iso
> ...' in the official document, someone must volunteer to test the RAM
> limits with the mini.iso for Lubuntu Saucy.
>
> Or maybe that should belong to item 2, the advanced stuff. To be honest,
> Knoppix or Puppy are better alternatives than Lubuntu for such low RAM.
> I have hands on experience from an old Compaq with 192 MB RAM.
>
> B. What about zRAM for the alternate iso? Please state your opinion!
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
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