[Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Test Report 1] Minimum RAM required to install Saucy (Lubuntu 13.10) from Desktop ISO
Nio Wiklund
nio.wiklund at gmail.com
Mon Jun 17 14:33:05 UTC 2013
Yes, I'm starting to realize that it has reached the daily build. All
these mails make it very obvious even for me now :-D
And it seems to be a great improvement for Lubuntu and old hardware.
Best regards
Nio
On 2013-06-17 14:42, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi Nio,
>
> the BIG change with Saucy is the recent inclusion of ZRam, it is for
> this reason we are re-testing "how low can it go" :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 17 June 2013 02:13, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> With all respect to your skill as a tester, Ali, I have to ask:
>
> 1. Has the GUI installer of Saucy improved a lot compared to Raring?
>
> 2. Or was I doing something seriously wrong?
>
> Because I could not install Lubuntu Raring 32-bit without swap, not even
> with the alternate installer, with 256MB RAM. I did it in VirtualBox in
> a Precise 32-bit host.
>
> I'll test it tomorrow in Saucy and switch off the memory hogs in
> VirtualBox. I will also try to test low RAM in a real computer :-)
>
> Best regards
> Nio
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: memory needed for Lubuntu tested with vbox
> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:12:18 +0200
> From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>
> To: ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com
> <mailto:ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com>
> <ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com
> <mailto:ubuntu-quality at lists.ubuntu.com>>,
> Lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:Lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
> I want to share these results from testing to install and run Lubuntu
> with low memory. I was using today's daily build of Lubuntu Raring
> desktop and alternate iso files.
>
> See the attached file. Comments are welcome :-)
>
> Best regards
> Nio alias sudodus
> ----------------------------------
>
> On 2013-06-17 02:06, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ali, firstly thank you for all the work you put in for the minimal
> > specs of what lubuntu will install on. To everyone else working on
> this,
> > also a big thank you.
> >
> > For our minimal specs, once we get to 256MB RAM, we are also
> stretching
> > the applications (browser).
> >
> > @ Jluien, if Z-Ram works so well, could we drop alternate for some of
> > the archs?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phill.
> >
> >
> > On 17 June 2013 00:45, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com
> <mailto:amjjawad at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:amjjawad at gmail.com <mailto:amjjawad at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > *_My Test - Part 1_*
> > *Note* These Tests have been done on Oracle VM version 4.2.12
> > running on Windows 7 on HP Pavilion DV6, Core i5 first generation
> > and 4GB RAM.
> >
> > *_Test Case A_*
> >
> > _Hardware Details:
> > _
> > CPU: 1 CPU
> > RAM Used by the OS: 256MB
> > HDD: 5GB
> >
> > _Scenario: _
> > This is to simulate when the user has 256MB Physical RAM and a
> > dedicated Graphics Card that does not steal/share its memory with
> > the RAM. So, the OS will use the whole RAM which is 256MB.
> >
> > _Installation:_
> >
> > 1. Mounted the Saucy ISO on the VM
> > 2. Chose "Install Lubuntu" from the Menu
> > 3. Chose "Erase Disk and Install Lubuntu"
> > 4. Installation Process took around 16mins
> > 5. VM Rebooted
> > 6. System is up and running
> >
> > _Notes:_
> >
> > 1. I have installed on completely wiped/free HDD. NO partitions
> > whatsoever. NO other system. Nothing.
> > 2. The installation Process was really smooth and without any
> > problem, it worked and finished from the first try.
> > 3. I have followed the same steps but choosing "Try Lubuntu
> without
> > installation" and then installed Lubuntu from the the Live
> > Desktop by clicking the icon on the Desktop "Install Lubuntu
> > 13.10" and the installation process took around
> 15mins-16mins as
> > well but I felt the process is slower than before. Moving the
> > mouse for example wasn't as smooth as the first test - when
> > choosing "Install Lubuntu" from the menu.
> > 4. After the installation, and for both methods (Install Lubuntu
> > and Try Lubuntu without installation then install from the
> live
> > desktop), the RAM Usage according to 'htop':
> >
> > RAM: 98MB/256MB
> > SWAP: 1MB/482MB
> >
> > Firefox and LXTerminal with htop and it says: 153MB RAM and
> 7MB SWAP
> > on www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
> <http://www.google.com/> and I don't feel like
> > having only 256MB at all.
> > Did not play more. Was just testing how Firefox will behave.
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = = =
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> > *_
> > _*
> > *_Test Case B_*
> >
> > _Hardware Details:
> > _
> > CPU: 1 CPU
> > Base Memory: 256MB
> > Video Memory: 32MB
> > Used Memory by the OS: 224MB
> > HDD: 5GB
> >
> > _Scenario: _
> > To simulate the situation when the user has 256MB Physical RAM and
> > 32MB of that RAM will be used by the built-in Graphics Card.
> >
> > _Installation:_
> >
> > 1. Mounted the Saucy ISO on the VM
> > 2. Chose "Install Lubuntu" from the Menu
> > 3. Chose "Erase Disk and Install Lubuntu"
> > 4. Installation Process took around 16mins
> > 5. VM Rebooted
> > 6. System is up and running
> >
> >
> > _Notes:_
> >
> > 1. I have installed on completely wiped/free HDD. NO partitions
> > whatsoever. NO other system. Nothing.
> > 2. Installation Process was a bit slow and it was installed
> > successfully from the first try. Not very slow, but slow or a
> > bit slow. I guess it depends from machine to machine.
> > 3. Graphics Memory after installation was done is reporting,
> > according to 'htop', 242MB Used RAM by OS which means only
> 14MB
> > is being used by the graphics and I guess it depends on the
> > color and resolution so the system needs 14MB for video card.
> > After all, it is called 'Shared Memory' and the video card
> does
> > not really has to use it all :)
> > 4. I didn't try to the other option - "Try Lubuntu without
> > installation". I can tell the result would be the same. But I
> > don't mind, if really really necessary, to do that.
> >
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = = =
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> > *_Test Case C_*
> >
> > _Hardware Details:
> > _
> > CPU: 1 CPU
> > Used Memory by the OS: 192MB
> > HDD: 5GB
> >
> > _Scenario: _
> > To simulate the situation when the user has only 192MB
> Physical RAM
> > and a dedicated Graphics Card that does not steal/share its memory
> > with the RAM. So, the OS will use the whole RAM which is 192MB.
> >
> >
> > _Installation:_
> >
> > 1. Mounted the Saucy ISO on the VM
> > 2. Chose "Install Lubuntu" from the Menu
> > 3. Chose "Erase Disk and Install Lubuntu"
> > 4. Installation Process took around 20mins or a bit more.
> > 5. VM Rebooted
> > 6. System is up and running
> >
> > _
> > _
> > _Notes:_
> >
> > 1. I have installed on completely wiped/free HDD. NO partitions
> > whatsoever. NO other system. Nothing.
> > 2. I had to do 3 tries until the 3rd one got passed. The
> first two
> > tries, the installer crashed and dropped me to the Live
> Desktop
> > with the icon to install Lubuntu sitting there :)
> > 3. The installation process was slow but usable.
> > 4. When I tried to repeat using "Try Lubuntu without
> installation"
> > and then install Lubuntu from the the Live Desktop by clicking
> > the icon on the Desktop "Install Lubuntu 13.10", at the first
> > few steps, the installer crashed and it logged me off the Live
> > Desktop and took me to LightDM and only one username to
> login to
> > which is "other".
> >
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = = =
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> > *_Test Case D_*
> > *_
> > _*
> > _Hardware Details:
> > _
> > CPU: 1 CPU
> > Used Memory by the OS: 128MB
> > HDD: 5GB
> > *_
> > _*
> > _Notes:_
> >
> > 1. The installer crashed and dropped me to the Live Desktop with
> > the icon to install Lubuntu sitting there :)
> > 2. When I tried to install from the Live Desktop, it crashed and
> > dropped me to LightDM.
> >
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = = =
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> > End of Testing for today :)
> >
> > *_Conclusion_*:
> > We must understand the difference between the minimum system
> > requirement to*_'install'_* Lubuntu ... and ... the minimum system
> > requirement to *_'use'_* Lubuntu *_'after'_* installing it.
> IMHO :)
> >
> > My above 4 test cases were about the minimum system requirement to
> > 'install' Lubuntu.
> > After all, the usage of the system purely depends on the user.
> If he
> > is a light user, the system won't be so demanding at all.
> > If he is a heavy user, that is totally different story.
> >
> > So, IMHO, we should be clear about this point.
> >
> >
> > *_Recommendation:_*
> > Long story short, I do recommend that:
> > *The Minimum System Requirement to Install Lubuntu 13.10 from The
> > LiveCD using the Desktop ISO, is ... _256MB_ Physical RAM.*
> >
> >
> > *_Next Step:_*
> > I have moved houses so all my stuff are packed. I need to take my
> > old test PC from the store, find my keyboard and try to play
> with it
> > and repeat the above tests (not all of them).
> > What so special about that PC is:
> > It has 512MB Physical RAM and its BIOS has a feature to share
> > 32MB-256MB for the built in video card. So, I can test down to
> 256MB
> > RAM.
> > I can not go below that. But, after all, from what I've found so
> > far, it is useless to go below that as long as the above
> > recommendation says it all :)
> >
> > Thanks for reading my report!
> >
> > End of report.
> >
> > --
> >
> > "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >
> > *Best Regards,*
> > *amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/>*
> > *Start Ubuntu
> >
> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu>*
> >
> > /Test Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - //Intel Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz
> > with 489MB RAM/
> >
> >
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