Calendar/PIM recommendations/evaluations?

John Hupp lubuntu at prpcompany.com
Tue Jan 15 15:25:37 UTC 2013


On 1/14/2013 8:45 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> On 01/14/2013 10:14 AM, John Hupp wrote:
>>
>> On 1/14/2013 11:29 AM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>> On 01/14/2013 08:51 AM, Chris Green wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:37:43AM -0500, John Hupp wrote:
>>>>>     I'm looking for calendar or personal information manager 
>>>>> recommendations
>>>>>     and evaluations.  Overall recommendations (preferably with any
>>>>>     deficiencies noted), or what other programs are nice except 
>>>>> for this or
>>>>>     that problem.
>>>>>
>>>> I have spent many fruitless hours looking for calendar/PIM and have
>>>> never found anything particularly satisfactory.  What I have wound up
>>>> with at present is as follows:-
>>>>
>>>>      I use reminderfox (a Firefox addon) for entering important 
>>>> repeating
>>>>      reminders such as tax return dates (I run a small business).  
>>>> I have
>>>>      a small python script that uses the file produced by 
>>>> reminderfox to
>>>>      pop up a warning message in my panel (using Generic Monitor) when
>>>>      events due in a few days. The panel message turns red when 
>>>> it's only
>>>>      three days or less away.
>>>>
>>>>      For addresses and recording of things like dogs vaccinations,
>>>>      payments, etc. I have given up using anything clever and they 
>>>> live
>>>>      in text files.  The command line utilites (like grep and awk) 
>>>> are so
>>>>      good that finding things is very easy.  My addresses for 
>>>> example are
>>>>      in text file(s) with 6 lines per entry, I have a bash script 
>>>> to find
>>>>      entries:-
>>>>
>>>>          #!/bin/bash
>>>>          #
>>>>          #
>>>>          # Address finding and editing program
>>>>          #
>>>>          if [ $1 == '-e' ]
>>>>          then
>>>>              if [ ${#2} == 1 ]
>>>>              then
>>>>                  vi ~/.addresses/$2
>>>>              else
>>>>                  vi -c/$2 `grep -l $2 ~/.addresses/*`
>>>>              fi
>>>>          else
>>>>              echo
>>>>              grep -h -A 5 $1 ~/.addresses/*
>>>>          fi
>>>>
>>>>      So to find an address I just enter 'a Fred' at the command 
>>>> line and
>>>>      any/all addresses for people with Fred in their name are listed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     I'm vaguely aware that there has been some controversy 
>>>>> regarding the
>>>>>     Lubuntu email programs, so the same input is welcome on that 
>>>>> topic.
>>>> I use mutt (command line junkie that I am).
>>>>
>>> Chris:
>>>
>>> I recently switched from using Evolution mail, to Thunderbird mail.
>>>
>>> That is working fine, so far, and I like it better.  The downside is 
>>> I have no way to migrate my former e-mails (which go back many 
>>> years, for the important ones).  I am living with that, because I 
>>> can just fire-up Evolution mail, and access all of the old e-mails.
>>>
>>> One thing Thunderbird didn't seem to have (that Evolution had), is 
>>> the calendar functionality.
>>>
>>> I originally used Osmo which seems to be installed by default.  It 
>>> seemed to work, though its functionality seemed minimal, to me.
>>>
>>> I then discovered that Thunderbird mail has calendar functionality, 
>>> which is available as a plug-in.
>>>
>>> I was hesitant to use it, since I had seen some bad reviews about 
>>> it, but I tried it anyway, and have yet to have any problems with it.
>>>
>>> Be aware that my experience is using Lubuntu 12.10.
>>
>> On Windows, Thunderbird has several documented font bugs in the HTML 
>> composer which frequently results in sent mail that has a mixture of 
>> font sizes (often switching at the point where the writer backspaced, 
>> corrected something, moved to another place in the body to insert 
>> something, or pasted in some text).  Yet everything looks fine to the 
>> writer during composition.  It is only when a reply is received that 
>> one becomes aware that the sender received mail that looks like it 
>> was written by a child.  Maddening, embarrassing and unprofessional.
>>
>> Are these bugs not manifested on Linux/Lubuntu?
>>
>>
>>
> John:
>
> I have an e-mail I sent to the Rosegarden Developers e-mail list 
> (using Thunderbird mail), as part of reporting a problem, that e-mail 
> was echoed back to me (as a member of the list), so I could see it.
>
> In that e-mail, I marked the computer output in at least two different 
> places by changing the font to Courier New.
>
> What came back to me (because I am a member of the e-mail list) looks 
> the same as what I saw when I edited it.
>
> Perhaps the problem reported in Windows does not occur in Linux/Lubuntu.
>
> If you have a description of a test I could do, I would be glad to 
> test it.
>
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> Aere
I have not gone through this and hand-picked a best-described, 
easiest-to-reproduce bug, but here are all the Thunderbird font-related 
bugs that I have voted up:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756984 Changing location in 
editor doesn't preserve the font when returning to end of text/line

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812638 TB is 
inserting/adding loads of redundant/incorrect/random <font size="x"> 
tags in the middle of corrected words (partially erased with backspace 
or DEL, then retyped) with certain valid font size attributes in HTML 
message source; causes spelling issues

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203810 Font style in 
prepopulated text in a reply "xyz wrote:" (attribution line) doesn't 
follow settings; causes replied text to not be default in cases

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606668 Font keeps changing 
back to Arial if you change the default font.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782215 Font size change 
causes inconsistent size changes to occur

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798868 Font and size change 
while typing a message

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799893 Default HTML message 
font is not preserved in list and after using a list

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=802190 Improve 
malfunctioning Composer

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=823523 Superfluous font 
tags in HTML mail cause spaces to disappear

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