Calendar/PIM recommendations/evaluations?

John Hupp lubuntu at
Tue Jan 15 15:25:37 UTC 2013

On 1/14/2013 8:45 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> On 01/14/2013 10:14 AM, John Hupp wrote:
>> On 1/14/2013 11:29 AM, Aere Greenway wrote:
>>> On 01/14/2013 08:51 AM, Chris Green wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:37:43AM -0500, John Hupp wrote:
>>>>>     I'm looking for calendar or personal information manager 
>>>>> recommendations
>>>>>     and evaluations.  Overall recommendations (preferably with any
>>>>>     deficiencies noted), or what other programs are nice except 
>>>>> for this or
>>>>>     that problem.
>>>> I have spent many fruitless hours looking for calendar/PIM and have
>>>> never found anything particularly satisfactory.  What I have wound up
>>>> with at present is as follows:-
>>>>      I use reminderfox (a Firefox addon) for entering important 
>>>> repeating
>>>>      reminders such as tax return dates (I run a small business).  
>>>> I have
>>>>      a small python script that uses the file produced by 
>>>> reminderfox to
>>>>      pop up a warning message in my panel (using Generic Monitor) when
>>>>      events due in a few days. The panel message turns red when 
>>>> it's only
>>>>      three days or less away.
>>>>      For addresses and recording of things like dogs vaccinations,
>>>>      payments, etc. I have given up using anything clever and they 
>>>> live
>>>>      in text files.  The command line utilites (like grep and awk) 
>>>> are so
>>>>      good that finding things is very easy.  My addresses for 
>>>> example are
>>>>      in text file(s) with 6 lines per entry, I have a bash script 
>>>> to find
>>>>      entries:-
>>>>          #!/bin/bash
>>>>          #
>>>>          #
>>>>          # Address finding and editing program
>>>>          #
>>>>          if [ $1 == '-e' ]
>>>>          then
>>>>              if [ ${#2} == 1 ]
>>>>              then
>>>>                  vi ~/.addresses/$2
>>>>              else
>>>>                  vi -c/$2 `grep -l $2 ~/.addresses/*`
>>>>              fi
>>>>          else
>>>>              echo
>>>>              grep -h -A 5 $1 ~/.addresses/*
>>>>          fi
>>>>      So to find an address I just enter 'a Fred' at the command 
>>>> line and
>>>>      any/all addresses for people with Fred in their name are listed.
>>>>>     I'm vaguely aware that there has been some controversy 
>>>>> regarding the
>>>>>     Lubuntu email programs, so the same input is welcome on that 
>>>>> topic.
>>>> I use mutt (command line junkie that I am).
>>> Chris:
>>> I recently switched from using Evolution mail, to Thunderbird mail.
>>> That is working fine, so far, and I like it better.  The downside is 
>>> I have no way to migrate my former e-mails (which go back many 
>>> years, for the important ones).  I am living with that, because I 
>>> can just fire-up Evolution mail, and access all of the old e-mails.
>>> One thing Thunderbird didn't seem to have (that Evolution had), is 
>>> the calendar functionality.
>>> I originally used Osmo which seems to be installed by default.  It 
>>> seemed to work, though its functionality seemed minimal, to me.
>>> I then discovered that Thunderbird mail has calendar functionality, 
>>> which is available as a plug-in.
>>> I was hesitant to use it, since I had seen some bad reviews about 
>>> it, but I tried it anyway, and have yet to have any problems with it.
>>> Be aware that my experience is using Lubuntu 12.10.
>> On Windows, Thunderbird has several documented font bugs in the HTML 
>> composer which frequently results in sent mail that has a mixture of 
>> font sizes (often switching at the point where the writer backspaced, 
>> corrected something, moved to another place in the body to insert 
>> something, or pasted in some text).  Yet everything looks fine to the 
>> writer during composition.  It is only when a reply is received that 
>> one becomes aware that the sender received mail that looks like it 
>> was written by a child.  Maddening, embarrassing and unprofessional.
>> Are these bugs not manifested on Linux/Lubuntu?
> John:
> I have an e-mail I sent to the Rosegarden Developers e-mail list 
> (using Thunderbird mail), as part of reporting a problem, that e-mail 
> was echoed back to me (as a member of the list), so I could see it.
> In that e-mail, I marked the computer output in at least two different 
> places by changing the font to Courier New.
> What came back to me (because I am a member of the e-mail list) looks 
> the same as what I saw when I edited it.
> Perhaps the problem reported in Windows does not occur in Linux/Lubuntu.
> If you have a description of a test I could do, I would be glad to 
> test it.
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> Aere
I have not gone through this and hand-picked a best-described, 
easiest-to-reproduce bug, but here are all the Thunderbird font-related 
bugs that I have voted up: Changing location in 
editor doesn't preserve the font when returning to end of text/line TB is 
inserting/adding loads of redundant/incorrect/random <font size="x"> 
tags in the middle of corrected words (partially erased with backspace 
or DEL, then retyped) with certain valid font size attributes in HTML 
message source; causes spelling issues Font style in 
prepopulated text in a reply "xyz wrote:" (attribution line) doesn't 
follow settings; causes replied text to not be default in cases Font keeps changing 
back to Arial if you change the default font. Font size change 
causes inconsistent size changes to occur Font and size change 
while typing a message Default HTML message 
font is not preserved in list and after using a list Improve 
malfunctioning Composer Superfluous font 
tags in HTML mail cause spaces to disappear

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