[Lubuntu] Progress on playing a CD?

[PCMan]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:38 AM, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:
> I just now ran the reverse experiment and installed Audacious and VLC on
> Edubuntu.
>
> Once you choose Audacious from the medium-inserted popup, it constructs a
> playlist and starts playing.  However, it started playing track 10 instead
> of track 1.  And it wasn't able to pick up the artist and title for the CD I
> was testing.  But at least it gets to first base and starts playing the CD,
> which it didn't do on Lubuntu without the further arcane maneuvers.
>
> For VLC, once it was chosen from the popup, it simply started playing.  But
> there was no playlist display.  However, it did correctly pick up the
> current track title and display the info in the window's title bar.  This
> seems to be the same behavior it has in Windows.
>
> Rhythmbox had the best behavior of all: It started playing Track 1 after
> correctly constructing the playlist.
>
> But in all 3 cases, the apps did start playing the CD, which they don't on
> Lubuntu.  PCManFM implicated?
>
> On 9/17/2012 8:51 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>
> Since Rhythmbox works so nicely on Edubuntu, I installed it on Lubuntu to
> see how it would behave compared to the other players I tested.
>
> The answer is -- worse!  After the "Removable medium is inserted - Type of
> medium: audio CD - Please select the action you want to perform" popup
> appears and I select Rhythmbox, nothing at all happens.  At least with
> Audacious, VLC and Gnome Mplayer, the player interface comes up.
>
> Though I'll add that I can start Rhythmbox from the main menu and select the
> Audio CD source from its UI to play a CD.
>
> Karl Anliot wonders if PCManFM is not also implicated here in the question
> of getting CD's to play by launching apps from the Removable-medium-inserted
> popup.  What do you all think?
>
> On 9/17/2012 7:48 PM, Karl Anliot wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:45 PM, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tip about ubuntu-bug, Phill.  I didn't realize that there was
> such a tool to handle the gathering of background details.
>
> OK, done on the bug filings:
>
> Audacious: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious/+bug/1052163
>
> VLC: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1052170
>
> Gnome Mplayer:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mplayer/+bug/1052177
>
> --John Hupp
>
> On 9/16/2012 2:29 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> you have three different bugs with three different applications. I know this
> may seem a pain, but raise one bug for each player. There is work going on
> with other player bugs, so it will help out.
>
> thanks,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 16 September 2012 17:31, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:
>
> That raises the question of what to file the bug report against.
>
> -----------------
> With Audacious, the inelegant process goes this way: Insert CD, the popup
> with "Removable medium is inserted - Type of medium: audio CD - Please
> select the action you want to perform" appears, select Audacious.  Audacious
> opens.  Click the Play button.  Nothing happens.  But in the menus, then
> choose Services: Play CD, and it constructs a playlist and starts the first
> track.
>
> With VLC, after choosing VLC in the popup and clicking the Play button in
> VLC, another window appears where one must click the Disc tab, choose Audio
> CD, then click the Play button in that window.
>
> (I also find that VLC is more memory-sensitive than Audacious.  Audacious
> performance for CD play is smooth on a machine with 386 MB, but VLC is
> choppy/stuttering badly and is not happy with less than 512 MB.)
>
> With Gnome Mplayer, after choosing it in the popup and clicking the Play
> button, mplayer generated a crash error.  But after closing the error
> window, the Mplayer window still seemed responsive, and it appeared that one
> would play a CD after choosing the menu item Services: Play CD, but in this
> post-crash instance nothing happened.
> -----------------
>
> I make those observations because this issue does not seem to be an
> application-level problem.  In Edubuntu, one inserts a CD, chooses Rhythmbox
> from the popup, the app opens, constructs the playlist and begins playing.
> In short, once you have told it to play a CD with Rhythmbox, it does so.
>
> Suggestions then, for what to file a bug report against?
>
> On 9/12/2012 3:34 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> thanks for raising the issue, it gives me a clear chance to let you know
> that the devs only react to bug reports [1]. We have few devs and too many
> ways of people complaining about issues, please do take the time to raise a
> bug report. The below link takes you through how to do it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phill.
> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Reporting_Bugs
>
> On 12 September 2012 19:16, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:
>
> Has there ever been any more progress on making it easy to play an audio
> CD in Lubuntu?
>
> Here is a good explanation of the obscure method one must currently use
> to play a disc (in VLC, but the same for other players as far as I can
> tell):
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334425&postcount=8
>
> I understand that the difficulty lies in the audio CD format not being an
> actual file system, but in short, one currently has to explicitly open the
> disc in the player even after choosing a player in the auto-play popup.  I
> read that Ubuntu accomplishes Windows-like simplicity in this regard, and it
> would be nice if users didn't need a How-To in order to play a CD.
>
> (And before I even got to this point, I had to overcome the obstacle that
> I couldn't even open the drive.  Pressing the open button got no response -
> the drive appeared to be dead.  This turned out to be a user privileges
> issue.  The default user privileges established when one installs Lubuntu
> don't grant permission for this.)
>

> John, I'm reading your bugs and I'm thinking you should have filed one
> bug against PCManFM, or whatever is launching the audio CD function.
> Anyhow good job.  You should review the wiki, love to have more feedback.

That "medium-inserted" popup is generated from registered handlers of
"x-conent/*" mime-types.
See: http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-info-spec-latest.html#id2710963
Check if the desktop entry files of these programs have correct
command lines for this purpose.
Desktop entry files for "x-content/audio-cdda" should not be the same
as the one shown in application menu.
There should be desktop entry files specialized for
"x-content/audio-cdda" since playing audio CD may need different
commands.

Just my 2 cents.