Removal of 'Open as Root' option in PCmanFM

[Mr Wislr]

I guess I stand with Linus on this... dumbing it down only makes
everyone dumber


On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:25:00 +0000
Phill Whiteside <PhillW at Ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Personally?
> 
> I'd have them read this section[1] before even being allowed to use
> sudo! It is a wasp / hornet's nest for a newcomer as wrongly done it
> can not only destroy your system, but install malware.
> 
> When writing stuff that uses sudo / root access, the author MUST
> follow the guidance of explaining the dangers of sudo / root access
> [2]. This can be a simple link, but IMHO, newcommers really should be
> made fully aware of just what using sudo / root access involves.
> 
> Reading the thread mentioned in [2] does give some insight into just
> what newcommers will do!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.
> 1. http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=326
> 2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
> 
> On 29 October 2012 20:55, Mr Wislr <contact at unleashpc.com> wrote:
> 
> > I say no, simply because mistakes and available options helps people
> > learn... when options aren't readily available neither are ideas or
> > understanding.
> >
> > how frustrated with the "new user" be when they are reading
> > something and trying to implement it but can't figure out how to
> > edit as root?
> >
> > We apparently aren't worried about their ability to do stuff but we
> > are worried about whether they will mess it up or not.. thats
> > silly... thats were learning happens...
> >
> > did you get all your math problems right the first time you ever
> > tried? Doubtful, it was mistakes and repetition that allowed you to
> > learn.
> >
> > Same here, leave the option there so people do discover it, wonder
> > about it, use it and understand it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:45:04 +0100
> > UH <uhtlmk at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That seems an excellent idea to me!
> > >
> > > 2012/10/29 Alexander Andjelkovic <andjelkovic at gmail.com>:
> > > > I agree that it's a security issue, but here's my proposal:
> > > >
> > > > *) Disable it by default.
> > > > *) Make it a viable option in preferences & warn users when
> > > > enabling the feature (confirmation dialog).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Alexander Andjelkovic
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Yorvyk
> > > > <yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Over on the LXDE list Andriy has opened a discussion on the
> > > >> removal of the 'Open as Root' option.
> > > >>
> > > >>>     Hello!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     I would like to duscuss a function in subject. Starting a
> > > >>> lot of GUI applications (including MS Windows .exe files,
> > > >>> browsers, etc.) under root makes linux vulnerable to troyans,
> > > >>> backdoors, not mention the cost of a failure of the buggy GUI
> > > >>> application when it operates with unlimited privileges is
> > > >>> very high. And 'Open folder as a root' starts all of this.
> > > >>> Since such kind of escalated privileges (which is much worse
> > > >>> than some 'sudo -s' which is unwelcomed and often denied by
> > > >>> administrator) is such dangerous no other file managers have
> > > >>> such functionality available for a regular user. And no
> > > >>> regular user would ever need such functionality but only
> > > >>> administrator of multi-user system probably. If regular user
> > > >>> wants open folder as root it usually means something was done
> > > >>> badly before (for example, missing a group for user) and that
> > > >>> should be fixed at that place instead of opening as root. So
> > > >>> I think this should be available only in 'advanced' mode, the
> > > >>> same way as SUID and SGID changes are available only in
> > > >>> 'advanced' mode currently. What do you think?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     With best regards.
> > > >>>     Andriy.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> If anybody has any thoughts on this and isn't a member of that
> > > >> list they can answer this thread and I will pass them on.
> > > >> For  me, it can go, as it has with a lot of other file
> > > >> browsers. If you wish to browse as root then PCmanFM can be
> > > >> opened with 'gksu'. It will make it that little bit harder for
> > > >> casual users to fiddle where they shouldn’t.
> > > >>
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