Removal of 'Open as Root' option in PCmanFM
Mr Wislr
contact at unleashpc.com
Mon Oct 29 20:55:05 UTC 2012
I say no, simply because mistakes and available options helps people
learn... when options aren't readily available neither are ideas or
understanding.
how frustrated with the "new user" be when they are reading something
and trying to implement it but can't figure out how to edit as root?
We apparently aren't worried about their ability to do stuff but we are
worried about whether they will mess it up or not.. thats silly...
thats were learning happens...
did you get all your math problems right the first time you ever tried?
Doubtful, it was mistakes and repetition that allowed you to learn.
Same here, leave the option there so people do discover it, wonder
about it, use it and understand it.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:45:04 +0100
UH <uhtlmk at googlemail.com> wrote:
> That seems an excellent idea to me!
>
> 2012/10/29 Alexander Andjelkovic <andjelkovic at gmail.com>:
> > I agree that it's a security issue, but here's my proposal:
> >
> > *) Disable it by default.
> > *) Make it a viable option in preferences & warn users when enabling
> > the feature (confirmation dialog).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alexander Andjelkovic
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Yorvyk
> > <yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> Over on the LXDE list Andriy has opened a discussion on the
> >> removal of the 'Open as Root' option.
> >>
> >>> Hello!
> >>>
> >>> I would like to duscuss a function in subject. Starting a lot
> >>> of GUI applications (including MS Windows .exe files, browsers,
> >>> etc.) under root makes linux vulnerable to troyans, backdoors,
> >>> not mention the cost of a failure of the buggy GUI application
> >>> when it operates with unlimited privileges is very high. And
> >>> 'Open folder as a root' starts all of this. Since such kind of
> >>> escalated privileges (which is much worse than some 'sudo -s'
> >>> which is unwelcomed and often denied by administrator) is such
> >>> dangerous no other file managers have such functionality
> >>> available for a regular user. And no regular user would ever need
> >>> such functionality but only administrator of multi-user system
> >>> probably. If regular user wants open folder as root it usually
> >>> means something was done badly before (for example, missing a
> >>> group for user) and that should be fixed at that place instead of
> >>> opening as root. So I think this should be available only in
> >>> 'advanced' mode, the same way as SUID and SGID changes are
> >>> available only in 'advanced' mode currently. What do you think?
> >>>
> >>> With best regards.
> >>> Andriy.
> >>
> >>
> >> If anybody has any thoughts on this and isn't a member of that
> >> list they can answer this thread and I will pass them on.
> >> For me, it can go, as it has with a lot of other file browsers.
> >> If you wish to browse as root then PCmanFM can be opened with
> >> 'gksu'. It will make it that little bit harder for casual users to
> >> fiddle where they shouldn’t.
> >>
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