Website & download

紳癒礁湖 rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com
Mon Jun 4 21:14:01 UTC 2012


Ok, in two or three days I'll finish the buttons, with your suggestion:

1) 64-Bit
2) 32-Bit
3) Mac-Intel
4) Mac-ppc

El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 21:17 +0100, en/na Phill Whiteside va
escriure:

> Rafael,
> 
> 
> 
> as ever... top quality work.
> 
> 
> I'll take a couple of full sets :) 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Phill.
> 
> 
> On 4 June 2012 21:08, 紳癒礁湖 <rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 
>         Yep. I like it. I made for my blog something similar (sorry,
>         attached image):
>         
>         
>         
>         ...with 4 variations. I'll calculate the size and made some
>         mockups, if you agree.
>         
>         
>         El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 20:34 +0100, en/na Phill
>         Whiteside va escriure:
>         
>         
>         
>         > Hi Rafael,
>         > 
>         > 
>         > I'd start with four (Lubuntu does not have arm etc.
>         > candidates). 
>         > 1) 64-Bit (Post about 2007 computers)
>         > 2) 32-Bit (Pre about 2007 computers)
>         > 3) Mac-Intel
>         > 4) Mac-ppc
>         > 
>         > 
>         > They could then be told the difference between Desktop
>         > Install and Alternate, followed by torrent / direct download
>         > choices. As to how make this all flow with icons etc, I'll
>         > leave that to you, who lives and breathes graphics :)
>         > 
>         > 
>         > I'd certainly be interested in your ideas,
>         > as http://thesii.org/iso/ could certainly do with a
>         > make-over :) (There are more iso's to be added there)
>         > 
>         > 
>         > Regards,
>         > 
>         > 
>         > Phill.
>         > 
>         > On 4 June 2012 19:51, 紳癒礁湖 <rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com>
>         > wrote:
>         > 
>         >         I'm looking at Ubuntu spanish mirror and you're
>         >         right, there's no trace of Mac images. ARM may be
>         >         named now Toshiba (I'm not an arch expert, of
>         >         course). But I count 12 only, maybe it depends on
>         >         mirrors. Have a look:
>         >         
>         >         http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/precise/release/
>         >         
>         >         But the idea I described in last e-mails (regarding
>         >         website design) was about including two or four
>         >         buttons only, pointing directly to the ISOs, in
>         >         usual archs (32 and 64, ubiquity and alternate,
>         >         2x2=4). Don't you think?
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 18:03 +0100, en/na
>         >         Phill Whiteside va escriure: 
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         > Hi Rafael,
>         >         > 
>         >         > 
>         >         > I've just had a look at the ubuntu.com site. I
>         >         > can't even find mention of the Mac series of
>         >         > installs (to say nothing of arm etc.)? We have a
>         >         > total of 9 variants for Lubuntu 12.04. Ubuntu has
>         >         > 15 (excluding server edition) ! 
>         >         > 
>         >         > 
>         >         > I'm all for a nice page with icons and
>         >         > descriptions, hopefully the wiki team can come up
>         >         > with one.
>         >         > 
>         >         > 
>         >         > Regards,
>         >         > 
>         >         > 
>         >         > Phill.
>         >         > 
>         >         > On 4 June 2012 17:50, 紳癒礁湖
>         >         > <rafaellaguna at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>         >         > 
>         >         >         Sorry, I must say what I think. The people
>         >         >         (and I) want to see a BIG button and
>         >         >         easier navigation modes, as well as
>         >         >         avoiding third party redirected pages.
>         >         >         Remember this
>         >         >         http://i.imgur.com/5W7B7.png ? That was
>         >         >         thinking about ubuntu.com, which is a
>         >         >         really gret job, talking in simplicity and
>         >         >         efficiency.
>         >         >         
>         >         >         This will happen again, by many many
>         >         >         users.
>         >         >         
>         >         >         PS. Sorry for being so "graphics nazi",
>         >         >         can't avoid it.
>         >         >         
>         >         >         El dl 04 de 06 de 2012 a les 16:18 +0100,
>         >         >         en/na Phill Whiteside va escriure: 
>         >         >         
>         >         >         
>         >         >         > HI,
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > you say you were on "Get Ubuntu" ? The
>         >         >         > Lubuntu area is Get Lubuntu [1].
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > The information on that page is up to
>         >         >         > date and covers as many the vast array
>         >         >         > of choices available owing to the vast
>         >         >         > array of computers that Lubuntu will run
>         >         >         > on. Please also note that none of
>         >         >         > Lubuntu releases are LTS. 
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > The start to Lubuntu Documentation is at
>         >         >         > [2].
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > Regards,
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > Phill.
>         >         >         > 1. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
>         >         >         > 2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         > On 4 June 2012 13:35, Ryan Gauger
>         >         >         > <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         On 06/04/2012 07:24 AM, Mark
>         >         >         >         Ballard wrote: 
>         >         >         >         
>         >         >         >         > I would like to give some
>         >         >         >         > feedback on a user's
>         >         >         >         > experience trying to download
>         >         >         >         > and install Lubuntu, if I
>         >         >         >         > may. 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > It's hard to find the download
>         >         >         >         > page. Clicking on "Get Ubuntu"
>         >         >         >         > takes  you to the help page.
>         >         >         >         > Then you have to rummage
>         >         >         >         > around on the site to find
>         >         >         >         > somewhere to actually download
>         >         >         >         > the version you need. 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > When you do select to
>         >         >         >         > download, it gives you v12.04.
>         >         >         >         > Even after rummaging around
>         >         >         >         > not possible to see any other
>         >         >         >         > versions to download. 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > The help page talks about
>         >         >         >         > other versions. It's
>         >         >         >         > information implies that 11.10
>         >         >         >         > is the long-term release. But
>         >         >         >         > there appears to be nowhere to
>         >         >         >         > download the long-term
>         >         >         >         > release. The importance of
>         >         >         >         > short-term releases became
>         >         >         >         > apparent to users recently
>         >         >         >         > when, for example, they got
>         >         >         >         > shipwrecked with the short
>         >         >         >         > term release of Ubuntu before
>         >         >         >         > the Unity overhaul. Had they
>         >         >         >         > stuck with the long term
>         >         >         >         > release prior to that, they
>         >         >         >         > would not now be shipwrecked.
>         >         >         >         > Yes I am speaking from
>         >         >         >         > experience. But what's the
>         >         >         >         > point of having a long-term
>         >         >         >         > release if you don't make it
>         >         >         >         > clear to users that this is
>         >         >         >         > the most advisable version to
>         >         >         >         > download and then point them
>         >         >         >         > to it? 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > The checksum info page
>         >         >         >         > contains info only about 11.10
>         >         >         >         > checksums. But the site
>         >         >         >         > downloads 12.04. 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > The checksum and torrent
>         >         >         >         > additions to the download
>         >         >         >         > process have really snarled
>         >         >         >         > things up for idiot users -
>         >         >         >         > sorry, you can't say that, can
>         >         >         >         > you? It's snarled things up
>         >         >         >         > for 'dummies'. No, you can't
>         >         >         >         > say that either, can you? Just
>         >         >         >         > because you are not an
>         >         >         >         > experienced command-line user,
>         >         >         >         > administrator or nerd
>         >         >         >         > hobbyist, that doesn't make
>         >         >         >         > you a dummy. But you are
>         >         >         >         > likely to have plenty else to
>         >         >         >         > do: looking after kids,
>         >         >         >         > working over-time, fixing the
>         >         >         >         > car, fending off zombies. So
>         >         >         >         > the install process requires
>         >         >         >         > that you learn about torrent
>         >         >         >         > clients and command lines and
>         >         >         >         > checksums. That's the last
>         >         >         >         > thing I need to do. That's
>         >         >         >         > eliminated most of the
>         >         >         >         > population of the planet as
>         >         >         >         > potential users straight off.
>         >         >         >         > Point and click, man. What's
>         >         >         >         > with all these complications? 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > So anyway. What I needed: a
>         >         >         >         > guarantee that I've got a
>         >         >         >         > version that will work with
>         >         >         >         > the target machine: PIII,
>         >         >         >         > 256Mb; a long term release
>         >         >         >         > version; and on the advice of
>         >         >         >         > this website, a checksummed
>         >         >         >         > version. What I got:
>         >         >         >         > likelihood the version I've
>         >         >         >         > got doesn't work with my
>         >         >         >         > machine, a short term release
>         >         >         >         > version, and no checksum
>         >         >         >         > validation. 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > On top of all that, I'm dizzy
>         >         >         >         > from going back and forth and
>         >         >         >         > round the website for the
>         >         >         >         > information I need to perform
>         >         >         >         > this simplest of operations:
>         >         >         >         > downloading a version to
>         >         >         >         > install. 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         >   
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         > 
>         >         >         >         
>         >         >         >         Hello Mark,
>         >         >         >         
>         >         >         >         I'm sorry your experience with
>         >         >         >         downloading Lubuntu has not been
>         >         >         >         pleasant. You can't download
>         >         >         >         other versions of Ubuntu or
>         >         >         >         Kubuntu off of their websites,
>         >         >         >         unless Googleing "ubuntu 11.10",
>         >         >         >         "ubuntu 11.04", etc. The latest
>         >         >         >         long-term support release is
>         >         >         >         Persistant (12.04 LTS, the LTS
>         >         >         >         stands for Long-Term Support).
>         >         >         >         Thanks!
>         >         >         >         
>         >         >         >         In Christ,
>         >         >         >         Ryan
>         >         >         >         
>         >         >         >         
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