Update - argh!

Phill Whiteside PhillW at Ubuntu.com
Thu Feb 2 22:54:27 UTC 2012


Hi Micheal,

(22:31:42) zzecool: Hello guy i have precise Alpha 1 installed and right
now my update manager ask me to remove almost the whole system (unity ,
nautilus , gnome shell ... all the libraries..... etc ) and only updates
about 5 7 random packages....
(22:31:49) zzecool: i know that alpha 2 is out
(22:32:09) zzecool: but this doesnt sound right if im gonna continue a
bricked system is gonna be the fate
(22:32:16) zzecool: any clue??
(22:36:39) *roadmr left the room (quit: Quit: leaving).*
(22:37:23) *jono left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 252 seconds).*
(22:38:07) hggdh: zzecool: this is both expected, and extreme
(22:38:52) zzecool: ?
(22:38:56) zzecool: i didnt get it
(22:38:56) hggdh: zzecool: depending on the status of the archive, you may
get requests to remove part of the system -- and *right* now it is highly
probable
(22:39:46) zzecool: Yeah ok but strange thing is that this doesnt happening
on my testing virtual machine running precise...
(22:39:57) hggdh: zzecool: remember this is development. As such, packages
may land that require updates elsewhere. If these updates are not
available, the package manager may suggest removals
(22:40:20) zzecool: This isnt right
(22:40:29) zzecool: wait
(22:40:33) zzecool: ill paste bin
(22:40:37) hggdh: zzecool: then the best option is to open a bug, and make
sure you (1) explain well what happened, and
(22:40:41) zzecool: to give you a better look
(22:41:32) hggdh: zzecool: (2) you attach /var/log/apt/term.log and
/var/log/apt/history.log
(22:41:38) *utlemming left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by
peer).*
(22:42:55) *utlemming [~ben at 53.236.sfcn.org] entered the room.*
(22:43:18) zzecool: http://pastebin.com/z9DenHan
(22:43:22) zzecool: take a look here
(22:43:26) hggdh: zzecool: I just tried a dist-upgrade now, and half of my
system (Gnome/Unity/Sound) would be removed
(22:43:35) zzecool: exactly
(22:43:37) zzecool: !!!
(22:43:45) zzecool: same problem here
(22:44:16) hggdh: zzecool: yes. This is why we do not recommend to use
apt-get
(22:44:49) zzecool: same thing is happening with synaptic , update manager
or aptitude
(22:45:04) hggdh: instead, use update-manager. If you are not careful with
apt-get, you can get a good chunck of your system removed
(22:45:16) hggdh: yes, it will be the same
(22:45:34) zzecool: im in #ubuntu+1 there are more ppl there with the same
problem
(22:45:40) hggdh: the archive is not yet fully updated with the co-reqs for
these updates
(22:45:42) zzecool: and searching for a solution
(22:45:57) zzecool: ahhh hggdh thank you very much
(22:47:16) zzecool: i dont know what co-reqs is
(22:47:41) zzecool: but i feel its like mirrors are not fully update or
something like that

The important part?.... Use update manager, they're looking into it.

Regards,

Phill.

On 2 February 2012 22:46, amjjawad HOOHAA <amjjawad at gmail.com> wrote:

> My friend,
>
> Two things I have learned the hard way and if I may, can I remind you:
> 1- Please be patient :D
> 2- At last night meeting, we talked about not to freak out because we are
> dealing with Alpha :)
>
> Now, slow down and give us more details :)
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Michael Rawson <michaelrawson76 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Just to warn everyone-I'm not sure entirely what's happening, but I just
>> updated, and it seemed to remove almost everything, and leave me with
>> broken packages, and barely functioning, unthemed, LXDE. Me being stupid, I
>> didn't think to check the remove list. Just a quick heads-up, I'm not sure
>> who it will or will not affect.
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