Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 8, Issue 17
Timothé Beemster
tbeemster at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 21:12:58 UTC 2012
Hi,
Of course I do respect everyone's choice, not least because linux is about
choice, but I do want to point out that GMPC is a front end to Music Player
Daemon, which also supports Jack audio (not verified by myself, but mpd
tends to be rock solid, so I suppose it should work) and also uses a
directory structure to manage music.
The player is not very well known, but I honestly think it's a missed
opportunity, as I like it a lot, and the valid point you made about some
features which are unnecessary: gmpc is very configurable, so you can just
turn features off, if you don't like them.
Thanks,
Timothy
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> 1. Chromium 18.0 with Flash 11.2 at YouTube: "Missing Plug-in"
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> 2. Re: Chromium 18.0 with Flash 11.2 at YouTube: "Missing
> Plug-in" (John Hupp)
> 3. New music player proposal (Timoth? Beemster)
> 4. Re: New music player proposal (Aere Greenway)
> 5. Re: New music player proposal (Ron Johnson)
> 6. Re: New music player proposal (Maps Backward)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:30:58 -0400
> From: John Hupp <jdhupp at prpcompany.com>
> To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Chromium 18.0 with Flash 11.2 at YouTube: "Missing Plug-in"
> Message-ID: <50219722.1030106 at prpcompany.com>
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> Hi, all.
>
> I installed Lubuntu 12.04, and I find that Chromium with integrated
> Flash -- the default right out of the box -- won't work at YouTube or
> Hulu. It generates a "Missing Plug-in" message.
>
> At Adobe's Find/Check-your-Flash-version page, Flash crashes.
>
> Yet Ubuntu 12.04 with the same default version of Chromium and Flash
> works OK.
>
> Anyone know what's going on and how to fix it?
>
> --John Hupp
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> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:47:19 -0400
> From: John Hupp <jdhupp at prpcompany.com>
> To: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson at cox.net>,
> lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Chromium 18.0 with Flash 11.2 at YouTube: "Missing
> Plug-in"
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> During Lubuntu installation, when one chooses the option to install
> third-party software (including Flash and the Fluendo MP3 codec or
> player), presumably those are installed from the CD or from the Ubuntu
> repository, or have been vetted to work properly with Lubuntu.
>
> And on my second rig with hardware that met the Flash 11.2 minimum
> requirements, it did, as I wrote below.
>
> On 8/8/2012 7:52 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Why didn't you install it from the Ubuntu repository?
> >
> > On 08/08/2012 04:46 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> >> OK, that's a proper distinction about Chromium not having integrated
> >> Flash.
> >>
> >> For my first LTSP server, the one about which I posted this, I installed
> >> Lubuntu with the Alternate Install CD (before I realized that it does
> >> not offer an F4 Modes: Install LTSP Server option, which was the reason
> >> I downloaded the Alternate Install) on less-powerful hardware.
> >>
> >> I just set up another one for testing and used the Desktop Install on
> >> more powerful hardware. I chose the installation option for third-party
> >> software (including Flash), and ***Flash works on YouTube*** without any
> >> further installations or updates.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately there were too many variables between the two
> >> installations to definitively pin down why Flash works on one setup and
> >> not the other. My successful setup has hardware that meets the minimum
> >> specs for Flash 11.2 (which I just discovered at
> >>
> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/release-note/release-notes-flash-player-11_20120305.html
> ),
> >>
> >> and my unsuccessful setup falls short. That difference in specs is the
> >> likeliest explanation, though there is also the Alternate vs. Desktop
> >> install, and I can't remember if I chose the third-party software option
> >> on the unsuccessful rig.
> >>
> >> On 8/8/2012 1:49 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 08/08/2012 12:03 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> >>>> Hi, all.
> >>>>
> >>>> I installed Lubuntu 12.04, and I find that Chromium with integrated
> >>>> Flash -- the default right out of the box -- won't work at YouTube or
> >>>> Hulu. It generates a "Missing Plug-in" message.
> >>>>
> >>>> At Adobe's Find/Check-your-Flash-version page, Flash crashes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yet Ubuntu 12.04 with the same default version of Chromium and Flash
> >>>> works OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone know what's going on and how to fix it?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Chromium does *not*, in fact, have Flash integrated.
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_%28web_browser%29
> >>>
> >>> So, you'll have to install Flash yourself.
> >>>
> >
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> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:22:48 +0200
> From: Timoth? Beemster <mail at tbeemster.nl>
> To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: New music player proposal
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> Hi lads,
>
> I've been using Lubuntu for some time now, but the first thing I always do
> after installing Lubuntu, is get rid of Audacious, and install GMPC (Gnome
> Music Player Client, it does not depend on Gnome (any more)).
> GMPC is fully featured, and praised for it's low resource usage, also on
> playlists with over a million songs.
> GMPC is using a plugin system, so not all functionality is obligatory, if
> you don't use it, just turn it off!
>
> I would like to propose to get rid of Audacious, and make GMPC the default
> music player, as it is a more fully featured music player than Audacious,
> in my opinion.
>
> Some facts about GMPC:
>
> - Website: www.gmpclient.org
> - In continuous development since 2003
> - Depends on the great Music Player Daemon
> - Automatic album art search, lyrics search, artist info.
> - Multimedia keys
> - Dynamic playlists (searches similar music based on Last.FM searches)
> - Jamendo & Magnatune music browser
> - Album View
> - Metadata Browser
> + a lot more.
>
> I would love to hear your opinions, and hope you are with me here!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Timothy Beemster
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> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:57:03 -0600
> From: Aere Greenway <Aere at Dvorak-Keyboards.com>
> To: Timoth? Beemster <mail at tbeemster.nl>
> Cc: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: New music player proposal
> Message-ID: <1344970623.1616.8.camel at aere-Dell-DE051>
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> All:
>
> Personally, I like Audacious, and have been using it (specially
> installed) in whatever Ubuntu 'flavor' I have used.
>
> What some people see as 'advanced' or 'many features' is to others
> useless complication.
>
> I do not (personally) like the players that organize your music by
> various criteria (such as genre), or by how often you play it.
>
> I have my music collection organized in a directory structure, and just
> want to easily access that directory structure to choose what I play.
> Audacious does this very well, and doesn't impose its own structure on
> your music collection.
>
> I don't want to have to import my entire collection, and then have to
> categorize everything according to the particular player's criteria.
>
> Audacious is simple, unobtrusive, and works well.
>
> Better yet, it is one of the few players that reliably works with the
> Jack audio connection kit, which I must use in doing my MIDI music
> creations.
>
> Of course, if others agree with you, and change the player that is
> automatically installed, I will continue to install (and use) Audacious
> on my own.
>
> - Aere
>
> On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 14:22 +0200, Timoth? Beemster wrote:
>
> > Hi lads,
> >
> > I've been using Lubuntu for some time now, but the first thing I
> > always do after installing Lubuntu, is get rid of Audacious, and
> > install GMPC (Gnome Music Player Client, it does not depend on Gnome
> > (any more)).
> > GMPC is fully featured, and praised for it's low resource usage, also
> > on playlists with over a million songs.
> > GMPC is using a plugin system, so not all functionality is obligatory,
> > if you don't use it, just turn it off!
> >
> > I would like to propose to get rid of Audacious, and make GMPC the
> > default music player, as it is a more fully featured music player than
> > Audacious, in my opinion.
> >
> > Some facts about GMPC:
> >
> > - Website: www.gmpclient.org
> > - In continuous development since 2003
> > - Depends on the great Music Player Daemon
> > - Automatic album art search, lyrics search, artist info.
> > - Multimedia keys
> > - Dynamic playlists (searches similar music based on Last.FM
> > searches)
> > - Jamendo & Magnatune music browser
> > - Album View
> > - Metadata Browser
> > + a lot more.
> >
> > I would love to hear your opinions, and hope you are with me here!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Timothy Beemster
>
>
> --
>
> Sincerely,
> Aere
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> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:13:09 -0500
> From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson at cox.net>
> To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: New music player proposal
> Message-ID: <502AA345.6040108 at cox.net>
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> Aqualung is a pretty lightweight GTK-and-directories music player that
> I've liked for years. It says that it works with JACK, but I can't
> verify the claim.
> http://aqualung.factorial.hu/
>
> On 08/14/2012 01:57 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> > All:
> >
> > Personally, I like Audacious, and have been using it (specially
> > installed) in whatever Ubuntu 'flavor' I have used.
> >
> > What some people see as 'advanced' or 'many features' is to others
> > useless complication.
> >
> > I do not (personally) like the players that organize your music by
> > various criteria (such as genre), or by how often you play it.
> >
> > I have my music collection organized in a directory structure, and just
> > want to easily access that directory structure to choose what I play.
> > Audacious does this very well, and doesn't impose its own structure on
> > your music collection.
> >
> > I /don't/ want to have to import my entire collection, and then have to
> > categorize everything according to the particular player's criteria.
> >
> > Audacious is simple, unobtrusive, and works well.
> >
> > Better yet, it is one of the /few/ players that reliably works with the
> > Jack audio connection kit, which I must use in doing my MIDI music
> > creations.
> >
> > Of course, if others agree with you, and change the player that is
> > automatically installed, I will continue to install (and use) Audacious
> > on my own.
> >
> > - Aere
> >
> > On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 14:22 +0200, Timoth? Beemster wrote:
> >> Hi lads,
> >>
> >> I've been using Lubuntu for some time now, but the first thing I
> >> always do after installing Lubuntu, is get rid of Audacious, and
> >> install GMPC (Gnome Music Player Client, it does not depend on Gnome
> >> (any more)).
> >> GMPC is fully featured, and praised for it's low resource usage, also
> >> on playlists with over a million songs.
> >> GMPC is using a plugin system, so not all functionality is obligatory,
> >> if you don't use it, just turn it off!
> >>
> >> I would like to propose to get rid of Audacious, and make GMPC the
> >> default music player, as it is a more fully featured music player than
> >> Audacious, in my opinion.
> >>
> >> Some facts about GMPC:
> >>
> >> - Website: www.gmpclient.org <http://www.gmpclient.org>
> >> - In continuous development since 2003
> >> - Depends on the great Music Player Daemon
> >> - Automatic album art search, lyrics search, artist info.
> >> - Multimedia keys
> >> - Dynamic playlists (searches similar music based on Last.FM searches)
> >> - Jamendo & Magnatune music browser
> >> - Album View
> >> - Metadata Browser
> >> + a lot more.
> >>
> >> I would love to hear your opinions, and hope you are with me here!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Timothy Beemster
> >
> > --
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Aere
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:23:49 -0700
> From: Maps Backward <maps.backward at gmail.com>
> To: Aere Greenway <Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com>
> Cc: Timoth? Beemster <mail at tbeemster.nl>,
> lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: New music player proposal
> Message-ID:
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>
> I tend to concur with Aere and have used it with JACK for music production
> as well. Aqualung does this too but I'm less fond of it. Also Audacious CAN
> be configured to do all the things Aere doesn't like so it is versatile.
>
> wxl
> On Aug 14, 2012 11:57 AM, "Aere Greenway" <Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> > All:
> >
> > Personally, I like Audacious, and have been using it (specially
> installed)
> > in whatever Ubuntu 'flavor' I have used.
> >
> > What some people see as 'advanced' or 'many features' is to others
> useless
> > complication.
> >
> > I do not (personally) like the players that organize your music by
> various
> > criteria (such as genre), or by how often you play it.
> >
> > I have my music collection organized in a directory structure, and just
> > want to easily access that directory structure to choose what I play.
> > Audacious does this very well, and doesn't impose its own structure on
> your
> > music collection.
> >
> > I *don't* want to have to import my entire collection, and then have to
> > categorize everything according to the particular player's criteria.
> >
> > Audacious is simple, unobtrusive, and works well.
> >
> > Better yet, it is one of the *few* players that reliably works with the
> > Jack audio connection kit, which I must use in doing my MIDI music
> > creations.
> >
> > Of course, if others agree with you, and change the player that is
> > automatically installed, I will continue to install (and use) Audacious
> on
> > my own.
> >
> > - Aere
> >
> > On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 14:22 +0200, Timoth? Beemster wrote:
> >
> > Hi lads,
> >
> > I've been using Lubuntu for some time now, but the first thing I always
> do
> > after installing Lubuntu, is get rid of Audacious, and install GMPC
> (Gnome
> > Music Player Client, it does not depend on Gnome (any more)).
> > GMPC is fully featured, and praised for it's low resource usage, also on
> > playlists with over a million songs.
> > GMPC is using a plugin system, so not all functionality is obligatory, if
> > you don't use it, just turn it off!
> >
> > I would like to propose to get rid of Audacious, and make GMPC the
> default
> > music player, as it is a more fully featured music player than Audacious,
> > in my opinion.
> >
> > Some facts about GMPC:
> >
> > - Website: www.gmpclient.org
> > - In continuous development since 2003
> > - Depends on the great Music Player Daemon
> > - Automatic album art search, lyrics search, artist info.
> > - Multimedia keys
> > - Dynamic playlists (searches similar music based on Last.FM searches)
> > - Jamendo & Magnatune music browser
> > - Album View
> > - Metadata Browser
> > + a lot more.
> >
> > I would love to hear your opinions, and hope you are with me here!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Timothy Beemster
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Aere
> >
> >
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