[lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

Phill. Whiteside phillwuk at gmail.com
Tue May 10 02:58:52 UTC 2016

Hi Walter,

does Doodle have just under 8,000 people and similar for the facebook page

But, i follow orders....

On 10 May 2016 at 03:33, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Having it be exclusively on Facebook makes no sense. Make a Doodle poll or
> something of the sort and link it to all the places.
> On May 9, 2016 7:31 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 7,769 members <https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/members/>(102
>> new) <https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/#>
>> just under 8,000 people.. let the vote go for 24 hours and we will accept
>> it.
>> The question:
>> Hi follks, As lubutnu moves from GTK (current) to Qt (LXQt) I propose
>> that we also move our wiki system to MediaWiki and have the moinmoin wiki
>> for the GTK variants.
>> +1 is for us setting up the new wiki area for Qt
>> -1 is for us keep using moinmoin untill it gets moved to MediaWiki Is
>> that fair?
>> On 10 May 2016 at 03:24, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I was not aware it was a vote.... let me set one up for everyone to be
>>> aware of.
>>> Phillw
>>> On 10 May 2016 at 03:22, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>> So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki server for
>>>> LXQt, the voting is as follows:
>>>> In favor: 1
>>>> Against: 2
>>>> How does everyone else vote?
>>>> On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Walter,
>>>>> we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two operating
>>>>> systems running side by side a better case of having two wiki areas? We are
>>>>> committed to Qt and it appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin
>>>>> to MediaWiki. Have a look at
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO and
>>>>> tell me how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt running along side the
>>>>> GTK ones...
>>>>> In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on the newer
>>>>> MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on moin. This does give everyone
>>>>> just under 18 months to decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly
>>>>> confident that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and Julien
>>>>> As for maintaining?... We will have an official release (GTK) and a
>>>>> community respin (Qt). This may be new to some, but us old wrinklies
>>>>> remember them.
>>>>> There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki systems as to
>>>>> when we are running dual ISO's and ensure bugs are reported to the correct
>>>>> version.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Phill.
>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree that MediaWiki is
>>>>>> better than Moin. I don't want two wikis to have to maintain. If we can
>>>>>> have someone else do the work of securing and maintaining our wiki, it's
>>>>>> less for us to deal with. It would be the same for our WordPress site of we
>>>>>> let Canonical host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being against
>>>>>> everything you do. It's about limiting the strain on the entire team.
>>>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Why do you think lubuntu.me is not hosted with canonical, yet they
>>>>>>> did the trade mark registration? They are paying for the domain and the
>>>>>>> hosting comes free..... I'll chat to Alf and Julien about what wiki
>>>>>>> structure is best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that is not
>>>>>>> compatible with MediaWiki is foolish. Any one who thinks Canonical IS are
>>>>>>> smarter than Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes up so as to
>>>>>>> help others facing the nightmare.
>>>>>>> But, as the two of you are 100% against everything I suggest, I'll
>>>>>>> just go 'meh' and work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the upstream
>>>>>>> requirements for lubuntu-lxqt.
>>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>>>>> Phill.
>>>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote is
>>>>>>>> to continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working on fixing
>>>>>>>> the scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything already
>>>>>>>> on Moin will get magically converted. If we make our own thing, we have
>>>>>>>> administrative overhead to deal with.
>>>>>>>> It's bad enough we don't have Canonical paying for our domain and
>>>>>>>> dealing with our hosting. While we're at it can we fix that, too?
>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>>>> it is vote time. I'm for not the fact that even fedora devs had a
>>>>>>>>> makeshift script to convert things from moin to mediawiki[1] Any one
>>>>>>>>> wanting to make a new project under moinmoin is making for more work in the
>>>>>>>>> future. But, I'm up for what the boss says.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin
>>>>>>>>> Is such a pain in the butt.
>>>>>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> IMHO we should write everything in MoinMoin then wait for the
>>>>>>>>>> conversion so people can still view the wiki now and continue to hack on it
>>>>>>>>>> but when the conversion runs, we have everything already available and set
>>>>>>>>>> in place.
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Simon Quigley
>>>>>>>>>> tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>>> tsimonq2 on Freenode
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