[lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

Simon Quigley tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
Tue May 10 02:37:36 UTC 2016


On 05/09/16 21:33, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> Having it be exclusively on Facebook makes no sense. Make a Doodle poll
> or something of the sort and link it to all the places.
> On May 9, 2016 7:31 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com
> <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     7,769 members
>     <https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/members/>(102 new)
>     <https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/#>
>     just under 8,000 people.. let the vote go for 24 hours and we will
>     accept it.
>     The question:
>     Hi follks, As lubutnu moves from GTK (current) to Qt (LXQt) I
>     propose that we also move our wiki system to MediaWiki and have the
>     moinmoin wiki for the GTK variants.
>     +1 is for us setting up the new wiki area for Qt
>     -1 is for us keep using moinmoin untill it gets moved to MediaWiki
>     Is that fair?
>     On 10 May 2016 at 03:24, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk at gmail.com
>     <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         I was not aware it was a vote.... let me set one up for everyone
>         to be aware of.
>         Phillw
>         On 10 May 2016 at 03:22, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:wxl at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>             So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki
>             server for LXQt, the voting is as follows:
>             In favor: 1
>             Against: 2
>             How does everyone else vote?
>             On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside"
>             <phillwuk at gmail.com <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>                 Hi Walter,
>                 we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two
>                 operating systems running side by side a better case of
>                 having two wiki areas? We are committed to Qt and it
>                 appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin to
>                 MediaWiki. Have a look
>                 at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO
>                 and tell me how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt
>                 running along side the GTK ones... 
>                 In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on
>                 the newer MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on
>                 moin. This does give everyone just under 18 months to
>                 decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly confident
>                 that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and
>                 Julien 
>                 As for maintaining?... We will have an official release
>                 (GTK) and a community respin (Qt). This may be new to
>                 some, but us old wrinklies remember them. 
>                 There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki
>                 systems as to when we are running dual ISO's and ensure
>                 bugs are reported to the correct version.
>                 Regards,
>                 Phill.
>                 On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski
>                 <wxl at ubuntu.com <mailto:wxl at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>                     You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree
>                     that MediaWiki is better than Moin. I don't want two
>                     wikis to have to maintain. If we can have someone
>                     else do the work of securing and maintaining our
>                     wiki, it's less for us to deal with. It would be the
>                     same for our WordPress site of we let Canonical
>                     host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being
>                     against everything you do. It's about limiting the
>                     strain on the entire team.
>                     On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside"
>                     <phillwuk at gmail.com <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>                         Why do you think lubuntu.me <http://lubuntu.me>
>                         is not hosted with canonical, yet they did the
>                         trade mark registration? They are paying for the
>                         domain and the hosting comes free..... I'll chat
>                         to Alf and Julien about what wiki structure is
>                         best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that
>                         is not compatible with MediaWiki is foolish. Any
>                         one who thinks Canonical IS are smarter than
>                         Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes
>                         up so as to help others facing the nightmare. 
>                         But, as the two of you are 100% against
>                         everything I suggest, I'll just go 'meh' and
>                         work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the
>                         upstream requirements for lubuntu-lxqt.
>                         Kindest Regards,
>                         Phill. 
>                         On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski
>                         <wxl at ubuntu.com <mailto:wxl at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>                             I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team,
>                             agrees on, too. My vote is to continue to
>                             use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are
>                             working on fixing the scripts so they can
>                             move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything
>                             already on Moin will get magically
>                             converted. If we make our own thing, we have
>                             administrative overhead to deal with.
>                             It's bad enough we don't have Canonical
>                             paying for our domain and dealing with our
>                             hosting. While we're at it can we fix that,
>                             too?
>                             On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside"
>                             <phillwuk at gmail.com
>                             <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>                                 Well,
>                                 it is vote time. I'm for not the fact
>                                 that even fedora devs had a makeshift
>                                 script to convert things from moin to
>                                 mediawiki[1] Any one wanting to make a
>                                 new project under moinmoin is making for
>                                 more work in the future. But, I'm up for
>                                 what the boss says. 
>                                 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin
>                                 Is such a pain in the butt.
>                                 On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley
>                                 <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
>                                 <mailto:tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>                                     IMHO we should write everything in
>                                     MoinMoin then wait for the
>                                     conversion so people can still view
>                                     the wiki now and continue to hack on
>                                     it but when the conversion runs, we
>                                     have everything already available
>                                     and set in place.
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