[lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area
Simon Quigley
tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
Tue May 10 02:37:36 UTC 2016
+1
On 05/09/16 21:33, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
> Having it be exclusively on Facebook makes no sense. Make a Doodle poll
> or something of the sort and link it to all the places.
>
> On May 9, 2016 7:31 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com
> <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> 7,769 members
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/members/>(102 new)
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/#>
>
> just under 8,000 people.. let the vote go for 24 hours and we will
> accept it.
>
> The question:
> Hi follks, As lubutnu moves from GTK (current) to Qt (LXQt) I
> propose that we also move our wiki system to MediaWiki and have the
> moinmoin wiki for the GTK variants.
> +1 is for us setting up the new wiki area for Qt
> -1 is for us keep using moinmoin untill it gets moved to MediaWiki
> Is that fair?
>
>
> On 10 May 2016 at 03:24, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk at gmail.com
> <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I was not aware it was a vote.... let me set one up for everyone
> to be aware of.
>
> Phillw
>
> On 10 May 2016 at 03:22, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com
> <mailto:wxl at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
> So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki
> server for LXQt, the voting is as follows:
>
> In favor: 1
> Against: 2
>
> How does everyone else vote?
>
> On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside"
> <phillwuk at gmail.com <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Walter,
>
> we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two
> operating systems running side by side a better case of
> having two wiki areas? We are committed to Qt and it
> appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin to
> MediaWiki. Have a look
> at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO
> and tell me how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt
> running along side the GTK ones...
>
> In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on
> the newer MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on
> moin. This does give everyone just under 18 months to
> decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly confident
> that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and
> Julien
>
> As for maintaining?... We will have an official release
> (GTK) and a community respin (Qt). This may be new to
> some, but us old wrinklies remember them.
>
> There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki
> systems as to when we are running dual ISO's and ensure
> bugs are reported to the correct version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski
> <wxl at ubuntu.com <mailto:wxl at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
> You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree
> that MediaWiki is better than Moin. I don't want two
> wikis to have to maintain. If we can have someone
> else do the work of securing and maintaining our
> wiki, it's less for us to deal with. It would be the
> same for our WordPress site of we let Canonical
> host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being
> against everything you do. It's about limiting the
> strain on the entire team.
>
> On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside"
> <phillwuk at gmail.com <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Why do you think lubuntu.me <http://lubuntu.me>
> is not hosted with canonical, yet they did the
> trade mark registration? They are paying for the
> domain and the hosting comes free..... I'll chat
> to Alf and Julien about what wiki structure is
> best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that
> is not compatible with MediaWiki is foolish. Any
> one who thinks Canonical IS are smarter than
> Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes
> up so as to help others facing the nightmare.
>
> But, as the two of you are 100% against
> everything I suggest, I'll just go 'meh' and
> work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the
> upstream requirements for lubuntu-lxqt.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski
> <wxl at ubuntu.com <mailto:wxl at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team,
> agrees on, too. My vote is to continue to
> use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are
> working on fixing the scripts so they can
> move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything
> already on Moin will get magically
> converted. If we make our own thing, we have
> administrative overhead to deal with.
>
> It's bad enough we don't have Canonical
> paying for our domain and dealing with our
> hosting. While we're at it can we fix that,
> too?
>
> On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside"
> <phillwuk at gmail.com
> <mailto:phillwuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Well,
>
> it is vote time. I'm for not the fact
> that even fedora devs had a makeshift
> script to convert things from moin to
> mediawiki[1] Any one wanting to make a
> new project under moinmoin is making for
> more work in the future. But, I'm up for
> what the boss says.
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin
> Is such a pain in the butt.
>
> On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley
> <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
> <mailto:tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
> IMHO we should write everything in
> MoinMoin then wait for the
> conversion so people can still view
> the wiki now and continue to hack on
> it but when the conversion runs, we
> have everything already available
> and set in place.
>
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