[loco-contacts] Our teams reject the new LoCo Council policy

[David López Castañón]

Hi,

I understand the organizative problems in LoCo Council, and I think you're
looking for the better solution about this problem.
But at this point, it's clear the smallest comunities are in disagreement
with this new organization.

This smallest comunities are very important to keep on the
Ubuntu philosophy with minority languages into a global comunity.

I'd like to read that LoCo Council guarantee no problem with
galician/asturian/basque
teams if we requets for an
exception.

Salú,
David

2014-10-15 2:04 GMT+02:00 Bhavani Shankar R <bhavi en ubuntu.com>:

> Hey,
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Nathan Haines <nhaines en ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > On 10/14/2014 03:57 PM, Felipe Gil Castiñeira wrote:
> >>
> >> On 14/10/14 23:20, Nathan Haines wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This does seem to indicate that they didn't read the new policy
> >>> thoroughly.  But now the problem is starting to become that certain
> >>> LoCo teams don't like policies that don't apply to them because they
> >>> think those policies don't fit them.  That's madness.
> >>
> >>
> >> The policy [1] is easy to read, and the statements are very clear (maybe
> >> excluding the "exception rule").
> >
> >
> > Well, I think so too, but some teams are obviously worried about things
> the
> > LoCo Council does not seem to have intended.  :)
> >
>
> Sorry for pitching in late, The way I interpret is the teams are free
> to decide upon themselves if they want to subdivide themselves based
> on language or culture or geography when its unique (Lets say in case
> of India/Russia for instance) for the resources to reach out more
> effectively upon verification and have a channel for more localized
> activity in that area.
>
> >> Finally, you say that *"**No existing LoCo teams are being
> >> reclassified". *This wasn't clear at all, and is great news for us.
> >> Nevertheless, I hope this policy won't cause problems to future teams in
> >> countries with "a complex organization".
> >
> >
> > Yes, to which I would ask, "Where does it say that existing teams are
> being
> > reclassified?"  So assuming that this is true is a little bit alarmist.
> But
> > even so, the logical thing to have done in my mind would have been to
> > contact the LoCo Council and say "I'm concerned about this policy
> because I
> > believe my LoCo has been considered an independent LoCo and I'm worried
> that
> > it might not be now."  Instead, the emails here accused the LoCo Council
> of
> > targeting cultural LoCos even after they've denied that the changes will
> > affect them.
> >
> > The LoCo Council isn't flawless.  It would be distracting to bring up my
> > grievances here, but suffice to say that I'll be the last one to say that
> > they don't make mistakes.  So I do understand the alarm.  But at the same
> > time, we're all working in support of the greater Ubuntu community, and
> > conversations are what will helps us all work through very understandable
> > concerns--not accusations and refusal to listen.
>
> Let me take an example here: In instance of India lets say Bangalore
> and Chennai (two of the metros) are in different states with different
> cultures/languages and a considerable user base too, So it would be
> sense to split them up as subteams that cater to their states (if they
> wish so) and take it on a case by case basis on behalf of the LC and
> if someone does not need it their locos will continue to exist as is
> they are now.
>
> >
> > Which I think is a good reminder not only for the LoCo Council members
> and
> > the concerned team members here, but for all of the LoCo contacts to
> think
> > about from time to time.
> >
> >
>
> As a former member of the LC, who spent time in the whole effort, The
> LC intended the sub loco "as an option" to loco teams (if any team
> wanted to diversify and coexist in the same geography, for instance
> catalan team) I guess and applications coming in under this option
> exercise, could be taken up on a case by case basis I think.
>
> Regards,
>
>
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> Bhavani Shankar
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