[loco-contacts] Our teams reject the new LoCo Council policy

[marcoslans]

Hi Michael,

Are you claiming our galician/asturian/basque teams would get an
exception if requested?


On 14/10/14 20:43, Michael Hall wrote:
> Let's please keep the tone of this discussion in check. This has nothing
> to do with respecting or not respecting contributors or teams, it is
> nothing more than an attempt at organizing and categorizing LoCo teams
> in a way that allows us to properly support the entire community with
> the resources that we have and promote growth in participation within
> each community.
> 
> We know that the guidelines will not work for all teams, that's why
> there is a way to request an exception.  Please don't let this policy
> upset you, if it doesn't work for you ask for an exception and carry on
> the way you always have. We (The Community Council and LoCo Council) are
> here to help, and we are all doing our very best to promote and support
> the whole Ubuntu community as well as each individual team within it.
> 
> Michael Hall
> mhall119 at ubuntu.com
> 
> On 10/14/2014 02:35 PM, Ubuntu España wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Don't worry Marcos Lans, from Ubuntu Spain that will not happen. Why? Because this policy is not fair. You are and you'll always be a team, never a subteam.
>>
>> FYI, Ubuntu Spain will not take any team. Ubuntu Spain is rejecting this policy too.
>>
>> The real problem here is to forget the great work of the *locale* teams (teams based in language). They are deserving much more respect than this new policy is giving them.
>>
>> Best regards!
>> Costales (Ubuntu Spain admin).
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:11:50 +0200
>> Marcos Lans <marcoslansgarza at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No sense Elizabeth. We are being forced to become a sub-loco of an
>>> unverified loco. It's crazy.
>>>
>>> On 14/10/14 19:59, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Marcos Lans <marcoslansgarza at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> How can you force a loco become a sub-loco? I don't get it.
>>>>
>>>> It's important to remember that this is only in relation to team that
>>>> wishes to become Verified teams, which includes benefits like:
>>>>
>>>>  - An Ubuntu banner and tablecloth upon verification
>>>>  - A shipment of DVDs from Canonical when the LTS is released
>>>>  - A slightly larger conference pack than un-verified teams get
>>>>  - Sometimes companies (like Pearson Education) offer a copy of The
>>>> Official Ubuntu or Server book to verified teams.
>>>>
>>>> So this policy is largely about management of these resources, it's
>>>> financially unsustainable to Canonical if every municipality in the
>>>> world was seeking them, so we have to have some structured rules in
>>>> place. Which, as several folks have already mentioned and is in the
>>>> document shared, can be discussed with the LoCo Council to be granted
>>>> an exception based on a variety of things (culture, geography,
>>>> language, etc).
>>>>
>>>> If our team doesn't care about these benefits, it's fine to remain
>>>> unverified and continue doing the great Ubuntu work you're doing :)
>>>>
>>>
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