[loco-contacts] Our teams reject the new LoCo Council policy

[Michael Hall]

It would be ultimately up to those teams to give a reason why and the LC
to decide. But the Catalan team desired to be organized independently of
the Spain team and the LC approved their request.

Michael Hall
mhall119 at ubuntu.com

On 10/14/2014 02:56 PM, marcoslans wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Are you claiming our galician/asturian/basque teams would get an
> exception if requested?
> 
> 
> On 14/10/14 20:43, Michael Hall wrote:
>> Let's please keep the tone of this discussion in check. This has nothing
>> to do with respecting or not respecting contributors or teams, it is
>> nothing more than an attempt at organizing and categorizing LoCo teams
>> in a way that allows us to properly support the entire community with
>> the resources that we have and promote growth in participation within
>> each community.
>>
>> We know that the guidelines will not work for all teams, that's why
>> there is a way to request an exception.  Please don't let this policy
>> upset you, if it doesn't work for you ask for an exception and carry on
>> the way you always have. We (The Community Council and LoCo Council) are
>> here to help, and we are all doing our very best to promote and support
>> the whole Ubuntu community as well as each individual team within it.
>>
>> Michael Hall
>> mhall119 at ubuntu.com
>>
>> On 10/14/2014 02:35 PM, Ubuntu España wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Don't worry Marcos Lans, from Ubuntu Spain that will not happen. Why? Because this policy is not fair. You are and you'll always be a team, never a subteam.
>>>
>>> FYI, Ubuntu Spain will not take any team. Ubuntu Spain is rejecting this policy too.
>>>
>>> The real problem here is to forget the great work of the *locale* teams (teams based in language). They are deserving much more respect than this new policy is giving them.
>>>
>>> Best regards!
>>> Costales (Ubuntu Spain admin).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:11:50 +0200
>>> Marcos Lans <marcoslansgarza at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No sense Elizabeth. We are being forced to become a sub-loco of an
>>>> unverified loco. It's crazy.
>>>>
>>>> On 14/10/14 19:59, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Marcos Lans <marcoslansgarza at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> How can you force a loco become a sub-loco? I don't get it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's important to remember that this is only in relation to team that
>>>>> wishes to become Verified teams, which includes benefits like:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - An Ubuntu banner and tablecloth upon verification
>>>>>  - A shipment of DVDs from Canonical when the LTS is released
>>>>>  - A slightly larger conference pack than un-verified teams get
>>>>>  - Sometimes companies (like Pearson Education) offer a copy of The
>>>>> Official Ubuntu or Server book to verified teams.
>>>>>
>>>>> So this policy is largely about management of these resources, it's
>>>>> financially unsustainable to Canonical if every municipality in the
>>>>> world was seeking them, so we have to have some structured rules in
>>>>> place. Which, as several folks have already mentioned and is in the
>>>>> document shared, can be discussed with the LoCo Council to be granted
>>>>> an exception based on a variety of things (culture, geography,
>>>>> language, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> If our team doesn't care about these benefits, it's fine to remain
>>>>> unverified and continue doing the great Ubuntu work you're doing :)
>>>>>
>>>>
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