Ubuntu Moscow LoCo

Randall Ross randall at executiv.es
Tue Apr 2 18:49:08 UTC 2013


On 13-04-02 11:40 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Randall Ross <randall at executiv.es> wrote:
>> Placement
>> on loco.ubuntu.com is a means to get a team visibility that they can't get
>> otherwise
> As part of the Russian team, they get this visibility. Plus the rest
> of the Russian team can see their work, events, projects. It's quite
> inspiring! :)
>
> This the the trouble with city-based teams and why every time the
> subject comes up it's rejected. City-based teams seem like a good idea
> for those of us who live in cities (San Francisco and Vancouver, in
> our cases) but it's unfair and uninspiring for folks who live in very
> small towns and similar. Approval-wise, it means that it would be very
> unlikely that a small town would ever get the official resources that
> the city-based teams get. It ends up being exclusionary and
> demotivating to folks in these smaller towns, which is the opposite of
> what we're trying to do here and I'm sure this is why Laura expresses
> concerned at your continued pushing for this (I don't believe she was
> being "condescending and combatative" she's just watching out for the
> little guys).
>
> In California small towns benefit from the full California team
> approval just as much as the big cities do and it's been a great
> system as we ship DVDs all over the state. It adds cohesiveness to
> folks in the same regions so I'm always aware of the cool stuff the
> folks in Los Angeles are doing in addition to my local things, when I
> visit San Diego I just need to check the California page to find out
> what they're doing. For regions who share a language in their region
> and so also coordinate translations efforts and such this is even more
> compelling.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
Hi Elizabeth,

Thanks for clarifying, but the reverse is also true. Rejection of city
teams potentially handicaps cities and larg(er) towns. The reason these
highly localized teams exist is that they are serving a need that is not
met by the current "official" nation-state structure. So, we can ignore
the citiess and pretend they don't exist, or we can embrace and
encourage them.

I choose the latter.

Cheers,
Randall.

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