Dual booting or Bare Metal + VM at install fests ? was: One doubt about a place for an install party

[Marcelo Gutierrez]

2011/1/27 Fabián Rodríguez <magicfab at ubuntu.com>

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>>  I would strongly advise against that. Most new machines use all 4
>> primary partitions, and rolling back such an install if someone changes
>> their mind is problematic.
>>
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> Why would you roll back an installation? and why would someone change his
> mind in the middle of an install party?
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> I have no clue. It's happened to me and I've since decided I'll never do
> something that will put me in a situation where I have to spend 2+ hours to
> restore a system to its original/previous condition.
>
> Bare metal is much easier. But if someone comes to an install party wanting
> to dual-boot, I'll be very convincing not to do so, and either go the Wubi
> way or the VM way.
>
> When GRUB explodes, you will witness instant changes of mind and "put it
> back as it was before" requests.
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>> Unless you know your way around GRUB and / or you have the original DVD, I
>> would never install Ubuntu as a dual-boot on a new machine for a new user.
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> The person who is installing must have some experience installing Ubuntu,
> of course you dont allways know everything but when installing we use our
> Ubuntu Gurus :)
>
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> I don't know many Gurus that want to spend the entire install fest with ONE
> problem :) I know my stuff but I prefer to do baby steps - or bare metal
> steps :D
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> I am not going to try to convince anyone but after 4 years doing this
> (Ubuntu support) full time at Canonical, I'll stick with safer methods.
>
>
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>>  In fact I've found it's easier to convert a Windows install to a virtual
>> machine, then wipe a system and install Ubuntu bare-metal, then use
>> VirtualBox (from Oracle) to get back 100% Windows functionality. That's more
>> than the typical 5-minute pitch though :D
>>
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> In an install party we never install Windows at all, that is why we use
> dual boot if a person wishes to keep their Windows, we encourage people to
> use Ubuntu when they want to so the change is not that radical and hope that
> they forget about the W
>
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> I didn't say I installed Windows. I explained how *I* preferred to preserve
> it (making a VM, going bare metal, etc). Dual booting is really the worse
> case scenario IMO for any advocacy. I'll just cite this one bug (unfixed
> since 9.10, priority high, in progress):
>
> grub fails after running Windows
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941?comments=all
>
>
> Thaks you for your time Magic Fab :)

Hopefully we will have this case in mind

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