<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/27 Fabián Rodríguez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:magicfab@ubuntu.com">magicfab@ubuntu.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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I would strongly advise against that. Most new machines use
all 4 primary partitions, and rolling back such an install
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Why would you roll back an installation? and why would someone
change his mind in the middle of an install party?<br>
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I have no clue. It's happened to me and I've since decided I'll
never do something that will put me in a situation where I have to
spend 2+ hours to restore a system to its original/previous
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Bare metal is much easier. But if someone comes to an install party
wanting to dual-boot, I'll be very convincing not to do so, and
either go the Wubi way or the VM way.<br>
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When GRUB explodes, you will witness instant changes of mind and
"put it back as it was before" requests.<br>
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<div>Unless you know your way around GRUB and / or you have
the original DVD, I would never install Ubuntu as a
dual-boot on a new machine for a new user.<br>
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The person who is installing must have some experience
installing Ubuntu, of course you dont allways know everything
but when installing we use our Ubuntu Gurus :)<br>
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I don't know many Gurus that want to spend the entire install fest
with ONE problem :) I know my stuff but I prefer to do baby steps -
or bare metal steps :D<br>
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I am not going to try to convince anyone but after 4 years doing
this (Ubuntu support) full time at Canonical, I'll stick with safer
methods.<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> In fact I've found it's
easier to convert a Windows install to a virtual machine,
then wipe a system and install Ubuntu bare-metal, then use
VirtualBox (from Oracle) to get back 100% Windows
functionality. That's more than the typical 5-minute pitch
though :D<br>
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In an install party we never install Windows at all, that is
why we use dual boot if a person wishes to keep their Windows,
we encourage people to use Ubuntu when they want to so the
change is not that radical and hope that they forget about the
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I didn't say I installed Windows. I explained how *I* preferred to
preserve it (making a VM, going bare metal, etc). Dual booting is
really the worse case scenario IMO for any advocacy. I'll just cite
this one bug (unfixed since 9.10, priority high, in progress):<br>
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grub fails after running Windows<br>
<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941?comments=all" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941?comments=all</a><br>
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<br></div></blockquote><div>Thaks you for your time Magic Fab :)<br><br>Hopefully we will have this case in mind<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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