Logging of Ubuntu LoCo Teams core channels

[David]

On 10/07/2010 07:22 PM, David wrote:
> On 10/06/2010 07:27 PM, Zach Gibbens wrote:
>> I know Tennessee had some opinions on it (at the time I thought it was 
>> loco or irc council policy for some time, I was just a regional contact 
>> back then) I'm going to add it to our teams agenda for our meeting 
>> tomorrow. I know personally it's earned it's weight, but others didn't 
>> like how widely indexed it was online via the big search engines.
>>
>> I do like what ubuntu-nl did, creating an off topic channel & seeing 
>> that two channels work, without trading one for the other.
>> However, we're unfocused until there is a need for a focused channel, 
>> for meetings, greeting & helping members new & old, then it becomes an 
>> unfocused channel again, there has allways been respect, something of an 
>> unwritten rule. be polite, don't fight.
>>
>> If logging were an issue, with a two channel system one logged & one 
>> not, what's to prevent an issue from being moved to offtopic, to avoid 
>> the logging, or make it a client to client message for that matter. on 
>> the other end, if logging wasn't made known, who's to say that the 
>> client your using isn't logging it?
>>
>> It's hard to have an opinion on this one way or another, I see that both 
>> sides have some merit, I'm not sure which way I'd lean. Why not leave it 
>> to the LoCo's (with some strong encouragement, listing where it's 
>> beneficial to have it) we have op's in our channel all the time (not 
>> displaying op status, no need for any ops) nor have we needed it in my 
>> almost 3 years as a member, our channel is active most of the day, 
>> nearly every day. what issues we had were a long time ago & via our 
>> mailing list, not on IRC (outside of logged meetings) it's been over a 
>> year & a half since that happened.
>>
>> I've not been on this list long & I suppose I don't fully understand the 
>> desire for requiring logging outside of meetings. I do see why logging 
>> is valuable & also unwanted, depending on your opinions on the matter, 
>> why make it policy for every loco to log their channels 24/7, instead of 
>> leaving that up to the loco's, which some loco's choose to log their 
>> channels? I ask with my mind fully open, just trying to have an 
>> understanding on that part of this issue.
>>
>> Signed,
>> Zach Gibbens
>> Tennessee PoC (ubuntu-us-tn)
>>
>> P.S I didn't mean for this to be as long winded as it became, my apologies.
>>
> 
> 	To start with ther are not enough regional teams! At one time I was
> interested in starting one but couldn't get any support,ie:Code of
> concudct signing etc. I live In a small town near Cookeville TN. and
> wish to start a team here I have personally gotten 15 people to use
> Ubuntu and installed it as an only OS on thier computers still I cannot
> get assistance.
> 	David
> 	in TN
> 

	What did you just say? You sound kinda lika a government empolyee with
an eraser on both ends of his/her pencil.Can we just speak plain english
wich everyone can understand?
	I will still support Ubuntu and continue installing when I can. Your
decision makes little difference to me however others may be swayed by
your comments.