SoSLUG Ubuntu Global Jam in East of England

[linux]

Hello Greg,

I was under the impression you were on our mailing list this is not the 
case, what you where referring to is my mail on the loco-contacts list 
which does show a disclaimer as an attachment on all emails sent from 
this account. The disclaimer is actually attached to all email 
regardless of who it comes from that has an email account on our email 
server it can be changed but not from any remote email client, which I 
am currently using.

Your email started

Your LUG's mailing list has a disclaimer? ...

This lead me to conclude you where subscribing to our service when in 
fact you where not.

Then when you mentioned lawyers I read this perhaps wrongly as an attack 
and that the disclaimer was something I should not do. The language you 
used within your email lead me to believe this disclaimer upset you. I 
try very hard to please everyone the members who participate with me in 
the LUG and the people we communicate with.

I mean no disrespect I just think you could have used your words with 
constructive advice, I am not an expert but it appears to me that 
because I am a member of the Linux User Group movement that we should 
have a perfect business like expert system with a team of lawyers at 
ready supply. I would rather not have a disclaimer at all but many 
businesses over hear have them and suffice to say an argument was made 
to have one also.

You have given me your opinion I don't know that it is correct but I 
will take the advice you offered, and implement it as soon as possible.

Derek

Greg Grossmeier wrote:
> <quoting name="linux" date="2009-09-20" time="18:19:47 +0100">
> 
>> Greg,
>>
>> Thankyou for your email, I am so sorry the disclaimer has upset you
>> so much
> 
> I haven't read past this point yet, but I just wanted to say that it 
> didn't "upset me so much." I see these disclaimers a lot and usually 
> don't comment on them. I just thought it was a tad out of place on a LUG 
> mailing list message, is all. And, I meant the ":)" at the end to 
> indicate that I wasn't "upset" but more just pointing out something I 
> find out of place.
> 
> That is all.
> 
> /me now continues to read the rest of your email...
> 
>> I was looking to draft in some professional help with a
>> Ubuntu Global Jam, you know developers programmers that sought
>> thing. It was not my intention to start an argument if the
>> disclaimer is so unsuitable for a mailing list
> 
> No argument was started. :)
> 
>> perhaps you could
>> suggest what it should contain. I am not a lawyer I don't draft in
>> lawyers to scrutinise what should be a collection of helpful people
>> some of whom may be professionals offering friendly advice.
> 
> I personally think that having a disclaimer on those messages is 
> worthless and doesn't do anything. As soon as your mailing list is 
> archived online (which is a Good Thing, so people can give URLs for 
> certain messages, read archives, etc), the "if you are not the intended 
> receipient of this email-message, please delete this message from your 
> system and do not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use this 
> e-mail message and any attachments" part is not enforceable anymore.
> 
> So, my suggestion: just remove it, you aren't gaining anything from it.
> 
>> I have
>> looked for your email address on our mailing list and don't seem to
>> locate it. So first let me make sure you have subscribed to the
>> correct list.
> 
> I am not a member of that LUG and do not live there (I live in the US). 
> :) I read your message on the ubuntu LoCo contacts mailing list.
> 
>> You are the first to complain about this I have not sought to
>> structure a mailing list solely on it's legal importance. I just
>> wanted to ensure it was read by the intended party and not therefore
>> by accident perhaps, someone else.
> 
> And if someone else did by accident read your message on a publicly 
> logged mailing list......?
> 
> 
> Again, no argument here, I'm just pointing out the fact that using that 
> disclaimer (or pretty much any disclaimer) on a LUG mailing list just 
> seems very out of place.
> 
> Wish you the best!
> 
> Greg
> 

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