Sarcasm and making fun of other projects in loco team lists

[Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)]

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Hi Fabian

Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
> I am one of the admins of the loco team list for Ubuntu Colombia.
> 
> I deeply resent any sarcasm and bad mouthing of other operating systems
> and Linux distributions, particularly any references to them like
> Micro$oft. I strongly believe that's against our CoC and it sets the
> mood for other non-constructive comments and trolls.
> 
> I've found whenever such discussion is allowed, over time it escalates
> into more, and trolling ensues which generates a lot of noise and people
> unsubscribe quickly when they see that.
>
> I've replied with public friendly reminders and usually it dies off, but
> the size of our community is now such that this is not working. We have
>  a link to the Code of Conduct in each email footer, but it's mostly
> ignored.

In my opinion, it happens way too often that the community is accused of
this. Usually, it's a small minority of people that do this, and often,
those users are new users who are aren't educated on the matter who,
with time, do learn how to respect their peers (and competition)
properly. I think it's very unfair to accuse the community at large of
constant sarcasm and badmouthing. I think that most people are
reasonably adults and actually do a good job at keeping to the Ubuntu
Code of Conduct. Perhaps it's different in the Comumbia Loco team, but
even so, it would be better to show tolerance and understanding to new
users than to flame and tell them how immature they are.

> Short of limiting subscriptions, moderating and kicking out the "bad
> apples", what other suggestions would loco teams have about this ?

If it's a seasoned community member who understands and who regularly
purposely break the communities rules, then it's completely reasonable
to moderate them or kick them out.

> Or maybe I should just shut up and watch the thing implode. Who know, it
> may even take care of itself somehow. Teenage crisis ? :)

Ugh, ditto for me. I don't mean to be touchy on the issue, but I've seen
too many people complaining about the issue recently, without seeing the
problem manifest all that often. Perhaps I haven't paid enough
attention, but I do read every mail on several Ubuntu mailing lists and
follow many of the important IRC channels and read Planet Ubuntu, and it
doesn't really warrant the kind of outcries that has been taking place
recently.

If you want to do something positive to educate users on how to respect
the larger software community and industry, then I'll be happy to help
you with it, but I think it's being a bit too dismissive to just regard
the community as general as immature name-callers, and I don't want any
part of that.

- -Jonathan
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