wa-pomeroy: LoCo teams becoming to political in nature? (comes from LoCo Team Council)

Thu Sep 27 11:49:35 BST 2007

If you want to help the Ubuntu LoCo team project, consider helping out in
ubuntu-us-wa. and make sure your resources point Ubuntu users in your area
to something more ON TOPIC. I don't consider you current setup of Resources
Ubuntu related at all...

Efrain Valles

On 9/27/07, Pomeroy Lab <admin at mindblowingidea.com> wrote:
>
> ya the state is the lowest level. I just want to be there somewhere. lol
>
> *Chris Rohde <veritastic at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> As far as I can recall, the current city teams are already approved, but
> I thought we were trying to stick to state being the lowest level, with
> those states subsequently delegating out cities as far as inner-loco
> organization goes?
>
> Or I could be entirely off track
>
> bordy
>
>
>
> Efrain Juvenal Valles Pulgar wrote:
> > My Reply between the lines
> >
> > On Sep 26, 2007 at 3:10 PM,
> > Pomeroy Lab Wrote:
> >
> > I only see one problem with the LoCo Locomotive. There is too much room
> for
> > politics. I like the idea of several LoCo teams all over the world and
> one
> > site pointing to each of them. The thing is even if we don't like
> everything
> > they are all doing and saying we don't have to try to control them.
> >
> >
> > The Council tends to keep our hearts in the same plase. It is not
> supposed
> > to control how a team goes about helping the ubuntu proyect as a whole.
> The
> > idea Jono originally brought up, which I support, is to have a council,
> a
> > group that can handle very detailed coplexities that involve the LoCo
> team
> > proyect. I am a Jono Generation Ubuntu user and his sometimes salomonic
> > decisions have been pretty on target. (Hats off to Mr Bacon for clearing
> the
> > way for spanish LoCo's to meet eye to eye), but I do believe a Council
> is a
> > great way to have a better insight on the different issues that arise in
> > different scenarios in different places around the world. Several other
> > Councils have been set up and I do believe it has been the key to
> successin
> > the improvement of the communication in IRC team and ubuntuforum team.
> just
> > my humble opinion.
> >
> > Just having a general list of locations of LoCo computer labs is a good
> > idea and advertising this list.
> >
> > Fantastic Idea, Good Ethics. Free education.
> >
> > I know there is politics involved in WA State because no one will even
> add
> > my LoCo team to the list.
> >
> > What's your loCo team again? wa-pomeroy ?? a branch of the
> > WashingtonTeam
> > all the resources you have set up do not have any direct promotion of
> > ubuntu. so what exactly makes you a LoCo team. you could very well start
> > one. there are many city-based LoCos. but your current set up of
> services is
> > not very ubuntu-oriented. please read the
> > LoCoTeamHowto.
> >
> > and I can't remember anyone adding my team for me in the Team List...
> you
> > add it yourself (proir to checking if a team exists... ) you add
> yourself as
> > a new team.
> >
> >
> >
> > I understand a set of rules that work such as the Safe Guide To Scouting
> > for the Boy Scouts. This is a plain and simple set of rules that makes
> it
> > impossible to get in trouble if you follow them and would work great
> with
> > the LoCo teams if you just took the parts about camping out unless you
> > wanted to allow Linux teams to go on camp outs as part of club
> activities.
> > The thing is there should be some suggested guidelines but unless the
> Ubuntu
> > LoCo federation is directly responsible for the actions of each LoCo
> team I
> > would not worry to much about controlling them.
> >
> > You are not controlled by the LoCo team council yet. cuz it hasn't been
> > approved yet... there is no such thing as a LoCo federation (yet). The
> only
> > thing you should abide by is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. and if you are
> > bringing in other elements into the equation. (like lug participation in
> > events and interaction with third parties), You still have to follow the
> > code of conduct. plain and simple.
> >
> >
> > I would worry much more about advertising the whole thing. To tell you
> the
> > truth a simple advertising campaign on TV or Radio in the US would be a
> very
> > good idea. This way you could charge a monthly fee of $10.00 to be
> listed on
> > the LoCo site as a location and this money would go towards adds for the
> > site. I don't see any problem here. Please let the LoCo team know what
> you
> > think about this?
> >
> > Teams are welcome to work their way how they see fit. In two years, I
> > haven't seen ads on Ubuntu team sites. mainly because people find ads
> > Anoying. Canonical provides loCo teams with basic resources web site,
> > mailing list. so the need to advertise to pay for hosting is not that
> > popular. to receive donations is not forbidden as long as there is a
> clear
> > objective as to what will be done with the money.
> >
> > In WA State and Idaho it seems like pulling teath to get anyone to help
> me
> > promote my LoCo.
> >
> > To be honest with you... Your resources do not prove you are not running
> a
> > loCo team, there is hardly any promotion of ubuntu in any of the
> resources
> > you set up. I would gladly help you set up an Ubuntu Community in your
> city.
> > but first you should consider joining the existing team and giving them
> a
> > well-deserved hand.
> >
> > A very usefull read... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto
> >
> > Cheers..
> >
> > Efrain Valles
> > ubuntu-ve co-contact
> > http://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx <http://launchpad.net/%7Eeffie-jayx>
> >
> >
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