If you want to help the Ubuntu LoCo team project, consider helping out in ubuntu-us-wa. and make sure your resources point Ubuntu users in your area to something more ON TOPIC. I don't consider you current setup of Resources Ubuntu related at all... Efrain Valles <div>On 9/27/07, Pomeroy Lab <<a href="mailto:admin@mindblowingidea.com">admin@mindblowingidea.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> ya the state is the lowest level. I just want to be there somewhere. lol Chris Rohde <<a href="mailto:veritastic@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> veritastic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> As far as I can recall, the current city teams are already approved, but I thought we were trying to stick to state being the lowest level, with those states subsequently delegating out cities as far as inner-loco organization goes? Or I could be entirely off track bordy Efrain Juvenal Valles Pulgar wrote: > My Reply between the lines > > On Sep 26, 2007 at 3:10 PM, > Pomeroy Lab Wrote: > > I only see one problem with the LoCo Locomotive. There is too much room for > politics. I like the idea of several LoCo teams all over the world and one > site pointing to each of them. The thing is even if we don't like everything > they are all doing and saying we don't have to try to control them. > > > The Council tends to keep our hearts in the same plase. It is not supposed > to control how a team goes about helping the ubuntu proyect as a whole. The > idea Jono originally brought up, which I support, is to have a council, a > group that can handle very detailed coplexities that involve the LoCo team > proyect. I am a Jono Generation Ubuntu user and his sometimes salomonic > decisions have been pretty on target. (Hats off to Mr Bacon for clearing the > way for spanish LoCo's to meet eye to eye), but I do believe a Council is a > great way to have a better insight on the different issues that arise in > different scenarios in different places around the world. Several other > Councils have been set up and I do believe it has been the key to successin > the improvement of the communication in IRC team and ubuntuforum team. just > my humble opinion. > > Just having a general list of locations of LoCo computer labs is a good > idea and advertising this list. > > Fantastic Idea, Good Ethics. Free education. > > I know there is politics involved in WA State because no one will even add > my LoCo team to the list. > > What's your loCo team again? wa-pomeroy ?? a branch of the > WashingtonTeam > all the resources you have set up do not have any direct promotion of > ubuntu. so what exactly makes you a LoCo team. you could very well start > one. there are many city-based LoCos. but your current set up of services is > not very ubuntu-oriented. please read the > LoCoTeamHowto. > <div>> and I can't remember anyone adding my team for me in the Team List... you > add it yourself (proir to checking if a team exists... ) you add yourself as > a new team. > > > > I understand a set of rules that work such as the Safe Guide To Scouting > for the Boy Scouts. This is a plain and simple set of rules that makes it > impossible to get in trouble if you follow them and would work great with > the LoCo teams if you just took the parts about camping out unless you > wanted to allow Linux teams to go on camp outs as part of club activities. > The thing is there should be some suggested guidelines but unless the Ubuntu > LoCo federation is directly responsible for the actions of each LoCo team I > would not worry to much about controlling them. > > You are not controlled by the LoCo team council yet. cuz it hasn't been > approved yet... there is no such thing as a LoCo federation (yet). The only > thing you should abide by is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. and if you are > bringing in other elements into the equation. (like lug participation in > events and interaction with third parties), You still have to follow the > code of conduct. plain and simple. > > > I would worry much more about advertising the whole thing. To tell you the > truth a simple advertising campaign on TV or Radio in the US would be a very > good idea. This way you could charge a monthly fee of $10.00 to be listed on > the LoCo site as a location and this money would go towards adds for the > site. I don't see any problem here. Please let the LoCo team know what you > think about this? > > Teams are welcome to work their way how they see fit. In two years, I > haven't seen ads on Ubuntu team sites. mainly because people find ads > Anoying. Canonical provides loCo teams with basic resources web site, > mailing list. so the need to advertise to pay for hosting is not that > popular. to receive donations is not forbidden as long as there is a clear > objective as to what will be done with the money. > > In WA State and Idaho it seems like pulling teath to get anyone to help me > promote my LoCo. > > To be honest with you... Your resources do not prove you are not running a > loCo team, there is hardly any promotion of ubuntu in any of the resources > you set up. I would gladly help you set up an Ubuntu Community in your city. > but first you should consider joining the existing team and giving them a > well-deserved hand. > > A very usefull read... <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto</a> > > Cheers.. > > Efrain Valles > ubuntu-ve co-contact > <a href="http://launchpad.net/%7Eeffie-jayx" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx</a> > > </div>begin:vcard fn:Chris Rohde n:Rohde;Chris email;internet:<a href="mailto:veritastic@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">veritastic@gmail.com</a> tel;cell:941-256-3448 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- loco-contacts mailing list <a href="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com </a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</a> </blockquote> -- loco-contacts mailing list <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts" target="_blank"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</a> </blockquote></div>