Re: 35 LibreOffice related upgrades have been «deferred due to phasing». Why?

Fri May 24 19:06:04 UTC 2024

On 5/24/24 13:16, Bas G. Roufs wrote:
> Hello Aaron and others.
>
> Op vr 24 mei 2024 om 19:39 schreef Aaron Rainbolt <arraybolt3 at gmail.com>:
>
>     On 5/24/24 12:37, Bas G. Roufs wrote:
>>     Hello Everybody.
>>
>>     Some minutes ago, I tried to update my system: Kubuntu 24.04 LTS.
>>
>>     (Snip)
>>     Net result....No newly installed packages and 35 upgradable
>>     packages do not get upgraded. Reason.... those apparently
>>     LibreOffice related «upgrades have been deferred due to phasing.»
>>     Why? What does this mean? What will happen next?
>
>     This is normal and is a quality control / testing measure so
>     people are less likely to run into severe bugs. Just wait, the
>     packages will eventually be installable.
>
>     See
>     https://askubuntu.com/questions/1431940/what-are-phased-updates-and-why-does-ubuntu-use-them
>     for more info.
>
>
> Sounds very reasonable. However, when reading the text behind the 
> above link, I also stumbled on this bug report:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1988819
>
> Is it possible that this bug also affects me? Or has it been solved 
> already?
>
> I also have tried the same update by following a slightly different 
> strategy at the terminal:
>
> bas at Camino:~$ sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
> [sudo] password for bas:
> Hit:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble InRelease
> Get:2 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates InRelease 
> [89,7 kB]
> Hit:3 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports InRelease
> Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security InRelease [89,7 
> kB]
> Get:5 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/main amd64 
> Packages [77,1 kB]
> Get:6 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/main i386 
> Packages [60,0 kB]
> Get:7 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/main 
> Translation-en [20,9 kB]
> Get:8 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/universe i386 
> Packages [17,3 kB]
> Get:9 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/universe amd64 
> Packages [35,7 kB]
> Get:10 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/universe 
> Translation-en [12,6 kB]
> Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security/main amd64 
> Packages [32,2 kB]
> Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security/main 
> Translation-en [10,3 kB]
> Fetched 446 kB in 1s (646 kB/s)
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> 35 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> Calculating upgrade... Done
> Get another security update through Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled:
>   libcjson1
> Learn more about Ubuntu Pro at https://ubuntu.com/pro
> The following upgrades have been deferred due to phasing:
>   dhcpcd-base fonts-opensymbol initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin 
> initramfs-tools-core
>   libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common 
> libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
>   libreoffice-help-common libreoffice-help-nl libreoffice-impress 
> libreoffice-kf5 libreoffice-l10n-nl
>   libreoffice-math libreoffice-plasma libreoffice-qt5 
> libreoffice-style-breeze libreoffice-style-colibre
>   libreoffice-uiconfig-calc libreoffice-uiconfig-common 
> libreoffice-uiconfig-draw
>   libreoffice-uiconfig-impress libreoffice-uiconfig-math 
> libreoffice-uiconfig-writer libreoffice-writer
>   libuno-cppu3t64 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64 
> libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3t64 libuno-sal3t64
>   libuno-salhelpergcc3-3t64 python3-uno uno-libs-private ure
> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 35 not to upgrade.
>
> Results are exactly the same - both at the attempt summarised in my 
> previous post and in this case. The list of held- back upgrades is in 
> both cases exactly the same.
>
> So, my question is now - have I been affected or NOT affected by bug 
> #1988819? Info about the bug I refer to, is here:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1988819?
>
> In other words: are those 35 yet withheld upgrades a normal 
> phenomenon? Or is there any issue I need to look at?

The 35 yet withheld upgrades are normal - it's just Ubuntu slowly 
rolling out an update rather than making it immediately available to 
everyone. That way if the update turns out to be broken despite testing, 
only some unlucky users find out first, rather than everyone's systems 
breaking at the same time.

The bug report was about apt's messaging about phasing being unclear in 
the past. At first it would just say "The following updates have been 
held back" without saying why, and that confused a lot of people. Now it 
says "The following upgrades have been deferred due to phasing", which 
tells you more about what's happening.

>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Yours.
>
> Bas.
>
>
>
>
>>     Yours.
>>     Bas.
>>
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>>
>>     Bas G. Roufs
>>
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> Bas G. Roufs MA
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> Mook ligt ca. 10 km. ten zuiden van Nijmegen en 10 km. ten oosten van 
> de Duitse grens.
> Uitspraak -ou- in achternaam «Roufs»: zoals in «bouwen».
>
> Mook is about 10 km. south of Nijmegen and 10 km west of the German 
> border.
> Pronunciatiation -ou- family name «Roufs»: like in «about».
>
>
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