Shall we drop i386 / 32-bit? If you think no, please test

Aaron Honeycutt honeycuttaaron3 at gmail.com
Fri Jun 30 22:26:10 UTC 2017


Yes this is why Valorie open a discussion about if we should keep it or get
rid of it.

On Jun 30, 2017 6:20 PM, "Bmarsh" <bmarsh at bmarsh.com> wrote:

>
> Ok, ok....   ya go me.  I'll test it as best I can.   I personally would
> love to see the 18.04 LTS  as maybe the last 32 bit release with the usual
> LTS length of support.  That should cover things and with such an
> announcement, people could plan for it.   I could buy into that.
>
> As it is, we didn't get ANY notice you were thinking of killing 32 bit.
>
>
>
>
> *From: * Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com>
> *To: * xeros <xeros at telesat.com.pl>
> *CC: * Kubuntu Developer Discussion <kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>,
> kubuntu-council at lists.launchpad.net, Kubuntu user technical support <
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>, Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com>
> *Subject: * Re: Shall we drop i386 / 32-bit? If you think no, please test
> *Date: * 6/30/17, 5:37 PM
>
> Hi folks, we did not get the testing coverage we needed for the Alpha
> 1, so there is no Alpha 1i386 Kubuntu Artful image. We haven't pulled
> it entirely however: next month is Alpha 2, and there will again be a
> chance for those of you who want i386 to be released, to do the
> testing before the deadline.
>
> I agree that the next LTS is will be an important decision point.
> 18.04 due to be released next April will be an LTS. It will again be
> in the hands of those in the Kubuntu community who want i386 to be
> released, to test. Without test coverage, I cannot in good conscience
> as the Release Manager give the go-ahead to publish. Nor do I have the
> time to personally do the testing for a build I do not and probably
> never will use.
>
> Kubuntu is produced by the community. None of us are paid; all of us
> work on a volunteer basis. We rely on the community for testing, for
> bug reports, for bug triage, for writing, promotion, publicity, for
> donations -- in short, for everything.
>
> If you enjoy using Kubuntu, please consider how you can bump up your
> contribution a bit, and keep us healthy and growing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Valorie
> Artful Kubuntu Release Manager
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:38 AM, xeros <xeros at telesat.com.pl> wrote:
> > I still have 2 32-bit i386 systems running older *ubuntu - one Pentium 4
> > desktop with Kubuntu (used mostly by my children) and one very old
> laptop
> > with Celeron 366MHz with Xubuntu and LXDE. I don't want to loose support
> for
> > them yet. I just miss time for testing all releases.
> >
> > Additionally, I have newer, but really low-end 64-bit laptop that has
> power
> > management & other drivers problems under any native Linux distros, so I
> > keep 32-bit Kubuntu & Mint virtualized with Virtualbox seamless desktop
> on
> > top of Windows 10, that uses less resources than 64-bit versions.
> >
> > Maybe if you really want to drop 32-bit support, could you at least
> still
> > keep those builds for LTS releases?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > Dnia 30 czerwca 2017 12:56:36 Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com> napisaƂ(a):
> >
> >> The lack of testers, the lack of bug reports, and the lack of response
> >> here seem to indicate that i386 users in our community are a rather
> tiny
> >> group. One that is likely shrinking even more.
> >>
> >> The short lifespans of non-LTS releases do not help, either. Perhaps
> >> dropping support now may be the best time to pull the plug.On Jun 29,
> 2017
> >> 4:33 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello folks, Art Alpha 1 is released today: release notes:
> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Alpha1/Kubuntu
> >>>
> >>> Please report test results here:
> >>> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/378/builds
> >>>
> >>> If we don't get complete test coverage on the i386 test cases, I think
> >>> we should drop it now. the KCI doesn't build the images, we get no
> >>> questions about 32-bit any more, and it is in general a pain to
> >>> support.
> >>>
> >>> Is there any reason to keep it?
> >>>
> >>> Valorie
>
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