Shall we drop i386 / 32-bit? If you think no, please test

[Bmarsh]

 Not complaining...  just making the case that with some advanced notice, I think most could "buy into a plan" to eliminate 32 bit.


 From: Aaron Honeycutt <honeycuttaaron3 at gmail.com> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>, bmarsh at bmarsh.com Subject: Re: Shall we drop i386 / 32-bit? If you think no, please test Date: 6/30/17, 6:26 PM

 Yes this is why Valorie open a discussion about if we should keep it or get rid of it. 
On Jun 30, 2017 6:20 PM, "Bmarsh" <bmarsh at bmarsh.com> wrote: 
 
Ok, ok....   ya go me.  I'll test it as best I can.   I personally would love to see the 18.04 LTS  as maybe the last 32 bit release with the usual LTS length of support.  That should cover things and with such an announcement, people could plan for it.   I could buy into that.

As it is, we didn't get ANY notice you were thinking of killing 32 bit.




 From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> To: xeros <xeros at telesat.com.pl> CC: Kubuntu Developer Discussion <kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>, kubuntu-council at lists.launchpad.net, Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>, Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com> Subject: Re: Shall we drop i386 / 32-bit? If you think no, please test Date: 6/30/17, 5:37 PM

 
Hi folks, we did not get the testing coverage we needed for the Alpha 
1, so there is no Alpha 1i386  Kubuntu Artful image. We haven't pulled 
it entirely however: next month is Alpha 2, and there will again be a 
chance for those of you who want i386 to be released, to do the 
testing before the deadline. 
 
I agree that the next LTS is will be an important decision point. 
18.04 due to be released next April will be an LTS. It will again be 
in the hands of those in the Kubuntu community who want i386 to be 
released, to test. Without test coverage, I cannot in good conscience 
as the Release Manager give the go-ahead to publish. Nor do I have the 
time to personally do the testing for a build I do not and probably 
never will use. 
 
Kubuntu is produced by the community. None of us are paid; all of us 
work on a volunteer basis. We rely on the community for testing, for 
bug reports, for bug triage, for writing, promotion, publicity, for 
donations -- in short, for everything. 
 
If you enjoy using Kubuntu, please consider how you can bump up your 
contribution a bit, and keep us healthy and growing. 
 
Thanks, 
 
Valorie 
Artful Kubuntu Release Manager 
 
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:38 AM, xeros <xeros at telesat.com.pl> wrote: 
> I still have 2 32-bit i386 systems running older *ubuntu - one Pentium 4 
> desktop with Kubuntu (used mostly by my children) and one very old laptop 
> with Celeron 366MHz with Xubuntu and LXDE. I don't want to loose support for 
> them yet. I just miss time for testing all releases. 
> 
> Additionally, I have newer, but really low-end 64-bit laptop that has power 
> management & other drivers problems under any native Linux distros, so I 
> keep 32-bit Kubuntu & Mint virtualized with Virtualbox seamless desktop on 
> top of Windows 10, that uses less resources than 64-bit versions. 
> 
> Maybe if you really want to drop 32-bit support, could you at least still 
> keep those builds for LTS releases? 
> 
> Regards, 
> Tom 
> 
> 
> Dnia 30 czerwca 2017 12:56:36 Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com> napisał(a): 
> 
>> The lack of testers, the lack of bug reports, and the lack of response 
>> here seem to indicate that i386 users in our community are a rather tiny 
>> group. One that is likely shrinking even more. 
>> 
>> The short lifespans of non-LTS releases do not help, either. Perhaps 
>> dropping support now may  be the best time to pull the plug.On Jun 29, 2017 
>> 4:33 PM, Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello folks, Art Alpha 1 is released today: release notes: 
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/Alpha1/Kubuntu 
>>> 
>>> Please report test results here: 
>>> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/378/builds 
>>> 
>>> If we don't get complete test coverage on the i386 test cases, I think 
>>> we should drop it now. the KCI doesn't build the images, we get no 
>>> questions about 32-bit any more, and it is in general a pain to 
>>> support. 
>>> 
>>> Is there any reason to keep it? 
>>> 
>>> Valorie 
 
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