what's the best way to report problems with kubuntu 15.10?

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On 09/11/2015 02:28 AM, Clay Weber wrote:
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> This is from a more recent version of udev than what is in Debbian Stable,
> iirc.

Right, I just thought it depended on systemd, which is version 215 or so 
there. And the thing was introduced in 197.

I always knew systemd was bad and then they introduce stuff like this 
with a complete disregard for their users. It is only 2% of people who 
have more than one "eth" and more than one "wlan". The feature serves 
only those 2% (who probably use the udev renaming feature, if they are 
aware of it) and doesn't need to be activated by default for the other 
98% at all. But I guess they see or use it as a form of advertising. "We 
created something cool and now we want everyone to see it". Same in KDE 
if you look at the plugin list of krunner. There are like 30 plugins and 
perhaps 20+ are enabled by default, slowing down the thing.

I guess they realise no one reads documentation by default unless they 
have a problem, so pushing it in the face of people at least makes them 
know it exists.... ;-).

And only because on some systems the kernel is not reliably assigning 
eth0 and eth1 to some cards/NICs. Never had that happen to me, in the 
past it was not a problem. They could use their new naming scheme to 
auto-sort the eths, but apparently that caused problems (while it is 
unclear why the udev rules couldn't do that without race conditions). 
All very weird and suspect.

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>> I know this is on the early side, but given how some people dismissed 15.04
>> complaints because nobody had spoken up or tested this stuff before the
>> release, I figured I'd try to avoid that problem this time.

Honestly? Wow... never heard that one before. The main problem existing 
today is that most people want to continue using KDE4 while some craze 
about KDE5 ensures that for the coming 2-3 years they are left dangling. 
In maybe 2 years time attention will shift back to KDE4 to achieve a 
kind of "forward path" from 4 to 5. Right now everyone seems to be in a 
rather unhealthy kind of fever ;-). Personally I will not use KDE5 
before the 3 years are past.

So I would say that they had better left this development as an in-lab 
thing while occassionally bringing out milestones (such as complete, 
feature-complete library components) that could exist on their own 
(perhaps) and that form complete "releases" as you build towards the 
greater future. Component releases. That model would have obviated the 
problems of premature complete desktop environments in which ALL 
subcomponents are feature-incomplete and not ready for release.

But more to the point of this topic's title, perhaps I can ask here:

I will do it in a new mail.

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>> David Lang
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